Cayman GT4 Weissach package

[Boxster_racer]

Been told rumours that the Weissach package may be brought down the line to the GT4. Has anytime herd anything about this?
It would an awesome, but expensive, option.

[Twinfan]

Not heard that in any of the rumour stories. Wishful thinking perhaps?

[Phooey]

There's no doubt Porsche could do it if they wanted too. It's a question of how far do they dilute the Weissach / RS badge vs profit. I'd bet we will see something else on the next GT4. It just makes sense - they've tested the water with the GT4 and found the market is booming for GT products. Now you have to keep feeding it.

[TDT]

Personally think it’s a waste and goes against the remit of an entry level GT car.
Weissach pack is for the 911 RS and top level super/hypercar. Extra level of differentiation to show you are even more exclusive and considerably richer than you!

Waste as most of these cars won’t be driven properly anyway… any weight advantage won’t be appreciated anyway.

[av185]

No chance as W pack would be a nonsense on the entry level GT4 despite likely base price rise from 981 to early £70ks for the 718.

Cayman as a model has a maximum price especially with a substantially detuned and largely non GT Porsche engine.

[ChrisW.]

It depends what is included. I am lustful for a set of Manthey BBS forged alloys .... say it quick at £7-8k and it's not too painful. But the weight saving is significant .... and right where it's most useful.

[Boxster_racer]

I would find it logical that the GT4 comes with this package as an option, considering the potential for this GT product within its segment. Having driven several 911s, including a GT3, I prefer the 981. I am not saying it is a better car, but I felt more connected and it was more fun, to me, the 981 experience. So, if I have some serious money to spend, I would spec a GT4 as high as I could, including this package.

[ChrisW.]

I completely agree with you.

I have done silly things with a 981 that I could not do with a 997 (and I did try), that might make me lucky, or it might say something about the ultimate limits of the weight distribution.

There is a reason why the new GT3R is, in fact, a Cayman.

[Boxster_racer]

ChrisW. said:

I completely agree with you.

I have done silly things with a 981 that I could not do with a 997 (and I did try), that might make me lucky, or it might say something about the ultimate limits of the weight distribution.

There is a reason why the new GT3R is, in fact, a Cayman.

Thanks Chris. Don’t know much about the GT3R facts. Do you have a link to share?

[Boxster_racer]

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Thanks cmoose. I don’t know a great deal about mechanics.
What are the WP differentiation versus buying bucket seats, PCCB, and say GT2RS wheels? The roll cage is made of a lighter material, more carbon (roof)? I guess you’re right, unless you’re a racing driver, for someone insufficiently skilled behind the steering wheel like me, it’s not worth the investment.

[Steve Rance]

I can understand why some drivers would spec WP but personally, if I were spending the thick end of £20k on upgrades, I’d spend it elsewhere

[acey81]

Would seem quite odd that the GT4 would get that option when the GT3 didn't. I mean, even the CS "package" was an option on the previous GT4, even if it was for free on other GT models.

I'm guessing wishful thinking. I think the CS package will be an option again, together with seats etc, but nothing more than that. Perhaps with a nice price increase. But titanium cage, wheels, CF hood, roof etc. No chance.

[Porsche911R]

I just wish the RS models were the best they can do and just made them more expensive.

Buying an RS then having to add money on it just seems daft.

It's not like they won't sell any RS if they add £40k to the price !

RS is not an RS now :-( unless it has a WP imo.

But out in the real world I would rather £40k in my pocket, buy some BBS Fi-R wheels for £8k, some proper light weight race seats, a lipo battery and a full Ti Akrapovic system.

[Porsche911R]

anonymous said:

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kills 2nd hand non WP cars though, you then have to spec it for resale alone !! hence the 90% take up !!!
the other 10% are now lemons in the 2nd hand market !!!

[ChrisW.]

And I'd wager it makes a minimal difference to the drive or performance ...

But it's pretty ....

The trouble is it makes it a money game at the point of ordering rather than a car game ... which does de-value the concept of the RS version of the GT3 ... and give dealers an excuse to sell mainly Weissach versions ?

[ChrisW.]

Boxster_racer said:

Thanks Chris. Don’t know much about the GT3R facts. Do you have a link to share?

For 2018 the new endurance GT3R had the engine reversed to better compete with Ferrari etc ... so the gearbox is at the back and the car has become more mid0engined, if still a 911 !

Maybe one day the Cayman will cease only because all 911's will be Caymans ?

And being mercenary ... why should a GT4 cost less to build than a GT3 (less say £5k for engine bits ?)

Look at the price of PCCB on the GT4 and GT3 --- same brakes, complete different price.

[acey81]

Going mid engined the 911 would lose the back seats, can't see Porsche going that route. However the engine is creeping forward with every generation.

[Taffy66]

acey81 said:

Going mid engined the 911 would lose the back seats, can't see Porsche going that route. However the engine is creeping forward with every generation.

The trouble with that is the wheelbase need to get longer and longer to accommodate everything, hence the need for RWS etc..

[WCZ]

will annoy too many customers if they make a WP for it as it'll be another £20k you have to pay or it'll affect resale value negatively

[TDT]

WCZ said:

will annoy too many customers if they make a WP for it as it'll be another £20k you have to pay or it'll affect resale value negatively

Which is madness, on a car that will cost £70-75k off the shelf? If they do to it, that will be ClubSport and Weissach Pack as optional extras to pay for and you will need to have ClubSport to get Weissach... so will be be 3K for ClubSport(Cage + Harnesses + Elec Cut off + Extingisher) then £7-10k for Weissach - which will be... (LW Wheels + CF Bonnet + CF Roof) + you'll need PCCB @ £6K and some kind of buckets @£2-4k

Thats maybe £20-25K on top of the base car and any other options... of course - there is a massive gap in the market in terms of price and performance - but that approach to the market satiation is really being cynical.