Best tyres for 987 Spyder

[andyP123456]

Looking at changing tyres on a 987 Spyder as it’s still on the original tyres by the looks of things so now 10 years old. The tyres currently fitted are Goodyear Eagle F1. Any advice appreciated

[Twinfan]

Michelin PS4Ss

[Porsche911R]

Twinfan said:

Michelin PS4Ss

Have you ever fitted these ?

I think the normal pilot super sports are a great tyre for the Spyder over the ps4s
As they offer a slightly better ride, and while ps4s are leagues better in the wet, for a 987 Spyder I doubt you are using it in the rain that much.

If you do fit ps4s which is a great tyre , you may find a choppy ride and want to let them down a few psi.

All these tyres these days are extra load for heavy cars, the Spyder is not a heavy car vs 1600kg cars of today.

And while load rating are the same the pss just feels more supple and Infact feels a better dry sports tyre over a ps4s.


The Goodyear as an example as well as the p zero has a load rating of 87, the other tyres are 91.

I had Goodyear’s on my 2nd R at pick up and they are very comfortable tyre they just go off 1/2 worn I found.

If you come from a goodyear you will def notice the firm ride, in my Cayman R I ran 3 or 4 sets of both pss and ps4s and the only way to live with ps4s is drop the psi a bit other wise imo you would hate it.

If you like how the Spyder is atm stay with the Goodyear’s.
If you want a slight better sports tyre fit the pilot super sports.

If you want to use it all year round in standing water fit ps4s and let them down a tad.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 8th March 10:31

[Gixxerdave]

Porsche911R said:

Twinfan said:

Michelin PS4Ss

Have you ever fitted these ?

I think the normal pilot super sports are a great tyre for the Spyder over the ps4s
As they offer a slightly better ride, and while ps4s are leagues better in the wet, for a 987 Spyder I doubt you are using it in the rain that much.

If you do fit ps4s which is a great tyre , you may find a choppy ride and want to let them down a few psi.

All these tyres these days are extra load for heavy cars, the Spyder is not a heavy car vs 1600kg cars of today.



And while load rating are the same the pss just feels more supple and Infact feels a better dry sports tyre over a ps4s.


The Goodyear as an example as well as the p zero has a load rating of 87, the other tyres are 91.

I had Goodyear’s on my 2nd R at pick up and they are very comfortable tyre they just go off 1/2 worn I found.

If you come from a goodyear you will def notice the firm ride, in my Cayman R I ran 3 or 4 sets of both pss and ps4s and the only way to live with ps4s is drop the psi a bit other wise imo you would hate it.

If you like how the Spyder is atm stay with the Goodyear’s.
If you want a slight better sports tyre fit the pilot super sports.

If you want to use it all year round in standing water fit ps4s and let them down a tad.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 8th March 10:31

Credit where it is due....
This is the sort of reply that makes forums great , a genuine question followed up by a detailed answer based on personal experience with the members personal thoughts and experiences.
No right or wrong answer , just different uses , feelings etc.

[Singh911]

I have the PS4S on my 981 Spyder - and I really like them. I did let down a few psi a few weeks ago after a similar conversation on here. Feels really good

[swanny71]

Not a 987 Spyder but I replaced PSS with PS4S on my 1M. On that car the newer tyre was much better in the cold/damp/wet, as good in the dry and more comfortable with no reduction in steering feel. Road use only, not taken on track.

Similar sizes (245/35/19 and 265/35/19) to the Spyder and the PSS were only a couple of years old with approx 5mm of tread remaining.

I always found PSS poor in the cold and/or damp, hence the change.

Will be fitting PS4S when I finally find an R or GTS.

[khushy]

Having done 120,000 in my 2010 Spyder - here is my take ....

I drive my car in all weathers in all conditions, every single day of the year .... the car came with Goodyears. There was a small window when I couldn’t get them so I swapped to Bridgestones RE050’s at around 30,000 miles which have been absolutely faultless since.

c£800 for a set of 4 fitted, roughly speaking = good value for a hard-driven, used everyday Spyder that has never once lost traction IMHO.

Edited by khushy on Sunday 8th March 20:43

Edited by khushy on Sunday 8th March 20:44

[Porsche911R]

khushy said:

Having done 120,000 in my 2010 Spyder - here is my take ....

I drive my car in all weathers in all conditions, every single day of the year .... the car came with Goodyears. There was a small window when I couldn’t get them so I swapped to Bridgestones RE050’s at around 30,000 miles which have been absolutely faultless since.

c£800 for a set of 4 fitted, roughly speaking = good value for a hard-driven, used everyday Spyder that has never once lost traction IMHO.

Edited by khushy on Sunday 8th March 20:43

Edited by khushy on Sunday 8th March 20:44

I find them a little hard, and would not be in my top 3.
They do wear Well which if you do 120k miles you don’t need to buy many sets lol .

[johnfm]

Mine had n-rated Bridgestones on when I bought it. So far, very good given that temps have been 5-10 degrees and roads have been wet.

£700 full set on black circles for the n0 rated.

Edited by johnfm on Monday 9th March 00:39

[LM240]

I replaced the original PS2 with exactly the same again and that was purely because they were 9-10 years old.

I don’t think I need or want any extra grip a PSS or PS4 might provide.

[Twinfan]

LM240 said:

I don’t think I need or want any extra grip a PSS or PS4 might provide.

Maybe in the dry, but the PS4Ss are superb in cold and/or damp conditions. They're a really great all-round road tyre if the car is used in a variety of conditions.

[Porsche911R]

Twinfan said:

Maybe in the dry, but the PS4Ss are superb in cold and/or damp conditions. They're a really great all-round road tyre if the car is used in a variety of conditions.

Have you ever had any ? you did not answer this ?

[andyP123456]

Thanks to everyone for the responses. I have a further question on this, do I need to buy Porsche approved "N" tyres or are the standard tyres all ok to use. First time I've had to do a full set replacement but at 10 years old and a nail finding its way into a rear tyre now seems to be a good time to bite the bullet

Again thanks for the replies

[PaulD86]

Porsche911R said:

Have you ever fitted these ?

I think the normal pilot super sports are a great tyre for the Spyder over the ps4s
As they offer a slightly better ride, and while ps4s are leagues better in the wet, for a 987 Spyder I doubt you are using it in the rain that much.

If you do fit ps4s which is a great tyre , you may find a choppy ride and want to let them down a few psi.

All these tyres these days are extra load for heavy cars, the Spyder is not a heavy car vs 1600kg cars of today.

And while load rating are the same the pss just feels more supple and Infact feels a better dry sports tyre over a ps4s.


The Goodyear as an example as well as the p zero has a load rating of 87, the other tyres are 91.

I had Goodyear’s on my 2nd R at pick up and they are very comfortable tyre they just go off 1/2 worn I found.

If you come from a goodyear you will def notice the firm ride, in my Cayman R I ran 3 or 4 sets of both pss and ps4s and the only way to live with ps4s is drop the psi a bit other wise imo you would hate it.

If you like how the Spyder is atm stay with the Goodyear’s.
If you want a slight better sports tyre fit the pilot super sports.

If you want to use it all year round in standing water fit ps4s and let them down a tad.

Edited by Porsche911R on Sunday 8th March 10:31

Did you ever run your Spyder or R on Cup 2s? If I was never going to use my R in the wet then I'd fit Cup 2s - I prefer how the car turns and feels on them VS the Super Sports which I'm currently running. The Super Sports are great in the dry but cold and wet isn't their bag - I actually found the Cup 2s more progressive when the broke away in those conditions vs the Super Sports. I'd say PS4S, Super Sport or Cup 2 could all be an answer to the question, depending on use.

[Twinfan]

andyP123456 said:

Thanks to everyone for the responses. I have a further question on this, do I need to buy Porsche approved "N" tyres or are the standard tyres all ok to use. First time I've had to do a full set replacement but at 10 years old and a nail finding its way into a rear tyre now seems to be a good time to bite the bullet

Again thanks for the replies

You'll need N rated tyres if you're running the Porsche warranty, or intend to in the future.. Your car won't pass the warranty extension 111-point check without them.

Otherwise you can fit what you like

[PaulD86]

Twinfan said:

You'll need N rated tyres if you're running the Porsche warranty, or intend to in the future.. Your car won't pass the warranty extension 111-point check without them.

Otherwise you can fit what you like

My workaround was to buy a set of winter wheels and tyres (Porsche wheels with N rated winters) and just swap for dealer visits. Cost me 600 quid off ebay and they had barely been used. Also handy when my wheels were being refurbed and stuff like that.

[Porsche911R]

PaulD86 said:

Did you ever run your Spyder or R on Cup 2s? If I was never going to use my R in the wet then I'd fit Cup 2s - I prefer how the car turns and feels on them VS the Super Sports which I'm currently running. The Super Sports are great in the dry but cold and wet isn't their bag - I actually found the Cup 2s more progressive when the broke away in those conditions vs the Super Sports. I'd say PS4S, Super Sport or Cup 2 could all be an answer to the question, depending on use.

it has Cup 2 on it now, but I would not run them for road use on this car really, it's quite bumpy ride when I go out with mates and they take single tracks !!!

I did track it once apon a time and the cups have stayed on the Car.

super sports imo would be the best dry weather tyre for it.

[frayz]

For what its worth i use my R mostly in dry weather, if i get caught in the rain so be it and have just fitted 4 new Cup2s.
It came on Cup2s when i bought it and I've always really liked the tyre. Feels great on road and for a road tyre they work nice on track too. Not as good as other track rubber i have used but then they're a compromise aren't they.
I've absolutely no doubt that Cup2 tyres are not required for road use, however i really love the way the car feels with the Cup tyre and was reluctant to swap to something else.

Previously run PSS on another car and loved them, superb performance in almost all conditions and couldn't really fault them.
Any offering from Michelin i think will be a great choice, just pick one based on what conditions you're likely to use the car for

[fullleather]

Have any of you tried the ad08r tyre?

[gordy.t1970]

fullleather said:

Have any of you tried the ad08r tyre?

Imho they’re a bit too extreme for road use and even less usable than Cup2’s in the wet, they don’t like standing water. Amazing track tyre especially in super soft compound but obviously require a bit of heat to bring them up to operating temperature.