GTS4.0 - anyone actually fitted Zunsport Grills to theirs ?

[pgamble]

Hi all

Very nervous about fitting anything to the car for fear of damaging it, however this does seem sensible. I've done 2000 miles so far so don't want to push my luck with damaged condensors / radiator.

Zunsport don't specifically detail the GTS4.0 but when asked I was told it's probably the same as the 718 GTS and if not I can return.

Has anyone purchased and fitted and if so, what are their thoughts ?

Paul

[mactrack]

I had my condensers replaced under extended warranty, albeit on a 981 CGTS, and straight afterwards fitted Zunsport grilles and I actually think they look good and I nearly always prefer everything to stay OEM. Fitting was easy enough although clearly not quite the same as a 718.

[Far Cough]

pgamble said:

Hi all

Very nervous about fitting anything to the car for fear of damaging it, however this does seem sensible. I've done 2000 miles so far so don't want to push my luck with damaged condensors / radiator.

Zunsport don't specifically detail the GTS4.0 but when asked I was told it's probably the same as the 718 GTS and if not I can return.

Has anyone purchased and fitted and if so, what are their thoughts ?

Paul

I fitted them to my CGTS and they are a perfect fit so will be no different on yours. Its very simple to fit them and even a non techy person can fit them without damaging anything. They simply locate in place and you then bend a small tab on them to stop them falling back out. I noticed zero difference in engine temps when on or off track on the hottest of days this summer

Edited by Far Cough on Friday 9th October 13:44

[pgamble]

Instruction sheet and videos I can find are pretty awful. It doesn't really explain how you insert and what your then push with a screw driver. Some of them appear to be fitted in first on one side with a right angled metal tab on that side obviously designed to fit around something in side the bumper and then there is another tab, I think on the top of the other side. Anyone actually have a video or stills that show each of the steps and what those steps actually do ?

Also, is the 718 GTS definitely the same front as the 718 GTS 4.0 ?

I also looked at the Rennline but would need an dealer or specialist to do - I'm not taking the front bumper off myself. I don't trust myself with something that easier to cock up.

Paul

[Fatherdougal]

I'm like you (albeit with a 981 rather than 718) with regards to being nervous fitting (and perplexed by the instructions!) In the end mine were both supplied by and fitted by Cotswold Porsche Specialists - if not near them am sure some other indies might supply and fit for small fee.

[Far Cough]

Honestly guys , there is nothing to fear. The smaller thinner grills have one end that you slip in ( the right angled bit that has been mentioned) and the other end is a simple tab you bend into place.

The bigger grills for the center and lowers each side have a tab which you need to prod and bend once you have offered the grill up in place. I advise fitting them because you will then have the knowledge to take them off should you need to clean behind them or servicing etc.

As mentioned , mine were in situ for 2 years and never moved or caused a problem. Once you have the kit infront of you its really obvious what goes where and which little tab to bend. Once the bend is done this is what prevents the grill from popping back out. Removal is just bending the tab straight et voila, it falls out !!

These are the little tabs below in red. A small flat head screwdriver is all you need.

[DJMC]

Full set fitted by Zunsport on my 981 and there are some screws which go into the black plastic at the edges of some apertures.

[Far Cough]

Irrelevant. The 718 is different shape. Zero screws required.

[pgamble]

Looking at the Zunsport fitting guide, they have the same one for the 718 GTS and the 718 for the side grills. Looking at the the GTS4.0, it has one pronounced horizonal slat in it's upper half whereas the video shows the normal 718 has two possibly less pronounced ones. Concerns me that this means the general 718 grills will not fit securely with the GTS4.0.

I guess what I really want to know is whether anyone with a GTS4.0 has actually purchased and fitted these front and side grills to their cars already ?

Cheers

Paul

[paulne3]

You are asking the very question I have - has anybody actually fitted them to a 718 4.0 GTS ? The manufacture told me the version for the 981 will fit but to my mind the front bumper areas are visibly different.

[pgamble]

So, just for clarification, I sent pictures of the side intakes to Zunsport showing that they clearly differed from the 718 and 718s install video they provide for the 718 GTS (not 718 GTS4.0 as there isn't one for that at all). the GTS4.0 has one angled and proud horizontal slat in the intake where the video shows the 2 the 718 and 718s have.

Zunsport responded saying that there was conflicting feedback from people and as such they couldn't guarantee a fit. I'm not so worried about them now fitting perfectly, obviously they can be sent back - I'm more worried about their shape or clip locations resulting in damage to a brand new car by me attempting to fit as per an incorrect video.

I'm surprised that they are not confirming fit themselves by either getting access to a car or offering them free or discounted to a tame customer who can test them properly for them.

I want them, but won't purchase until Zunsport can confirm absolutely they have tested them on a 4.0.

Paul

[Nick981]

I fitted Zunsport grills to my previous car - 911 GTS. My Porsche dealer told me that in the case of any engine problem, they would invalidate my warranty as not OEM.
Search in here - lots of conversations from numerous owners told the same.

[Neural]

Fitted them on my 4.0 GTS boxster with zero issues...

[pgamble]

Hi Neural

Did you fit the side ones as well as the front ? It is the sides that are clearly different on the GTS4.0 and the ones I was most concerned about. There is only one, rather than two, horizontal slats and that single slat seems to be more angled, larger and very flush with the front on the intake offering very little space for the grill to be recessed.

Paul

[DJMC]

Nick981 said:

I fitted Zunsport grills to my previous car - 911 GTS. My Porsche dealer told me that in the case of any engine problem, they would invalidate my warranty as not OEM.
Search in here - lots of conversations from numerous owners told the same.

Yes, they do invalidate any warranty. I have email from PGB confirming this. As a result my OPC refunded the cost of a 2yr extended warranty when they had sold it to me "in error."

Could the OP not lend his car to Zunsport in order for them to confirm/make a set which fits perfectly? They may then supply it for free.

[Twinfan]

Is the 4.0 front bumper exactly the same as the F4T GTS version? So if the grilles fit the old GTS they'll fit the new one?

[Chamon_Lee]

Nick981 said:

I fitted Zunsport grills to my previous car - 911 GTS. My Porsche dealer told me that in the case of any engine problem, they would invalidate my warranty as not OEM.
Search in here - lots of conversations from numerous owners told the same.

Came across this thread as I have nothing fitted on my 981S and in two minds as per the your post. It almost seems to be dealer specific on if they allow it or not.

What is the percentage chance of damage approx

[Neural]

pgamble said:

Hi Neural

Did you fit the side ones as well as the front ? It is the sides that are clearly different on the GTS4.0 and the ones I was most concerned about. There is only one, rather than two, horizontal slats and that single slat seems to be more angled, larger and very flush with the front on the intake offering very little space for the grill to be recessed.

Paul

I have only fitted the front grills, didn’t bother with the side ones.

[DJMC]

Chamon_Lee said:

Came across this thread as I have nothing fitted on my 981S and in two minds as per the your post. It almost seems to be dealer specific on if they allow it or not.

What is the percentage chance of damage approx

I went to Zunsport purely to have the rear ones fitted, as you could see the exhaust boxes through the bumper openings.




Peter the MD asked if I'd like others. I wasn't sure. He said "look, lets fit them, you see if you like them and if not we'll take them off."

They raised the front of the car to eye level and showed me the stone damage at 15k miles, as under...






In their workshop was another 981 having front grills fitted due to a punctured rad and £1000 bill.

They fitted the fronts, I said "I'll have them!"




Since then, at the end of one journey I found a pointed wooden stake embedded in one of the front grilles, around 6" long, just hanging there. The point had wedged in the grille mesh but done no damage to it. If it had hit the rad... who knows.

I could take my grilles off and have a warranty, but this area of the car is SO vulnerable I think it's the most likely place to get damaged. I had the side ones fitted too as I'd already had a leaf ingested making a ticking noise and had to get my OPC to remove this (albeit FOC).




As for "Some OPCs do, some don't" I have fully investigated this and it's not up to them to say. PGB say you can't have ANY aftermarket parts fitted or you'll invalidate your warranty. Certainly with the extended warranty, it's not even a Porsche product, it's an insurance company's. They won't listen to your argument or that of the OPC, although you may get your warranty cost back, as I did, for insurance mis-selling.

[CardiffTam]

pgamble said:

So, just for clarification, I sent pictures of the side intakes to Zunsport showing that they clearly differed from the 718 and 718s install video they provide for the 718 GTS (not 718 GTS4.0 as there isn't one for that at all). the GTS4.0 has one angled and proud horizontal slat in the intake where the video shows the 2 the 718 and 718s have.

Zunsport responded saying that there was conflicting feedback from people and as such they couldn't guarantee a fit. I'm not so worried about them now fitting perfectly, obviously they can be sent back - I'm more worried about their shape or clip locations resulting in damage to a brand new car by me attempting to fit as per an incorrect video.

I'm surprised that they are not confirming fit themselves by either getting access to a car or offering them free or discounted to a tame customer who can test them properly for them.

I want them, but won't purchase until Zunsport can confirm absolutely they have tested them on a 4.0.

Paul

Have you managed to progress this any further. I have a couple of dings on my rad from stones.