The cayman may have met its match
The cayman may have met its match
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julian987R

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6,840 posts

82 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Check Out the New LOTUS EMIRA! | FIRST LOOK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt6kjDGW89s

£60K


TDT

6,114 posts

142 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Sexy….


julian987R

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6,840 posts

82 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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at £60K its quite something considering what else is on the market

g7jhp

7,026 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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It's a stunning looking car in Nimbus Grey.




julian987R

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6,840 posts

82 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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a far nicer proposition than the Cayman I feel. the 718 has, like the 911, ballooned too much, whereas this Lotus is really sculptured and svelte...it like a love child of a 987 and a Mclaren

Xfe

258 posts

99 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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The V6 won't be £60k. Personally I don't think you can beat Porsche at their own game, but best of luck to Lotus. Hopefully some S3 Exige owners will trade in and I can pick one up...

swanny71

3,352 posts

232 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Tempted...

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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A V6 with a few options won't be dissimilar to a GTS 4.0 in price, and the Porsche will have a full NA engine.

The AMG four pot at £60k plus options sounds expensive, especially as some thought £45k 718s were too pricey...

MitchT

17,089 posts

232 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Want. cloud9


av185

20,464 posts

150 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Looks an interesting car at the money. Nice size too. Do wonder about the build quality even on new models.

Styling cues from the 458 at the front with hints from the Tributo and F Type at the rear the mix of which is a touch awkward imo.

Interior looks its weakest point rather bland imo even though the car in the video is presumably good spec.

Road test against its obvious competitor the GT4 will be interesting.

Edited by av185 on Tuesday 6th July 23:06

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

209 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Looks stunning.

dbroughton

304 posts

237 months

Tuesday 6th July 2021
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Had three Lotus before I became a Porsche guy (on my third). If anything is going to tempt me back its this! But being rational I love my Boxster S because of its physical integrity. Lotus needs to raise its quality game to get me back. Not expecting 'hewn from granite" but this needs to be the most robust Lotus ever

Royal Jelly

3,909 posts

221 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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I wasn’t expecting it to weigh more than a Cayman…

Andyoz

2,920 posts

77 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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If it at least teaches some Porsche dealers some manners it'll be a good job.

The Geely money seems to be working as all reviewers are commenting on perceived build quality.

Porsche have had the sub £80k mid engined car space to themselves for too long. Bring it on Lotus.

I'd love a go in one


Andyoz

2,920 posts

77 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Hydraulic steering too...smilesmile

F6C

455 posts

61 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Suspect it's a heavily updated Evora. Kershaw keeps talking about improvements to this or that aspect, upgrades to this or that element, with the implied starting point being the Evora.

It's all subjective, but personally don't think the Evora drives that well, in part thanks to the top-heavy V6 powertrain which is basically a repurposed FWD package - and you can really feel that. This 'new' car carries that basic issue over.

And despite all the breathless YouTube coverage, interior doesn't look that great as far as I can see. Steering wheel is particularly yucky.

Elements of it will be excellent. And it's better looking than the slightly limply styled Evora. But I doubt it will come terribly close to being a better overall driver's car and more satisfying ownership proposition than a 4.0-litre Cayman. The Cayman isn't perfect. But it is a bloody polished package at this point. Powertrain in particular is on another level.

Would far rather have seen Lotus do one last series of / a heavily updated Exige / Elise. It's what the company does best by far. It ultimately has never managed to deliver a really competitive car in this more premium segment. Not convinced the Emira will change that.

Grantstown

1,294 posts

110 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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The Boxter 4.0 GTS was weighed on Harry’s garage and the figure was around 1280 Kg. There was no driver and I’m not sure of the fuel level.

mr pg

2,040 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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julian987R said:
a far nicer proposition than the Cayman I feel. the 718 has, like the 911, ballooned too much, whereas this Lotus is really sculptured and svelte...it like a love child of a 987 and a Mclaren
Someone quoted it as being 100mm wider than a Cayman, and it's larger than an Evora.

PaulD86

1,814 posts

149 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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MitchT said:
Want. cloud9

That looks a lot better than the Cayman, in my eyes. It looks more special and has a hint of baby McLaren to me.

If this goes as well as it looks then Lotus could have a winner. Perceived quality could be an issue for Lotus, however I find it interesting that a chap I know who has owned a string of Porsches and Lotus' and currently owns one of each tells me he has had more problems with the Porsches and they have cost more to fix too.

Re the Harry's Garage weight for the Boxster - that has been questioned and I have to say I would be a bit surprised if it was that light - fair play if it is though.

Twinfan

10,125 posts

127 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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PaulD86 said:
Re the Harry's Garage weight for the Boxster - that has been questioned and I have to say I would be a bit surprised if it was that light - fair play if it is though.
IIRC there were a few cars that weighed light, so the scales may have been out of calibration.