New shocks for a 1990 964 C2 Targa
Discussion
I spoke to both Jaz and Redtek about this topic, what to do with regards to upgrading my suspension or replacing existing for OME. Jaz recommended KW's at cost of near to £3k including fitting and setup. Nick Fulljames of Redtek had the opposite of view of sticking to OME shocks and springs and even cringed when I mentioned KW's. Personally I feel Nicks view is right for me especially as I don't track my car.
Edited by Poorsh on Saturday 5th December 20:17
Steve Rance said:
Id go softer on a Targa. Presumably You were advised by Jazz to take the base KW? The damping control will be ok but if you are not looking for track performance you may as well stick to std. I
I agree as I won't be tracking and drive on bumpy B/C roads.Does 'standard/OEM' mean buy from Porsche?
What brand are they?
Are Bilstein B6 similar?
Thanks.
The Bilstein B6 is a good choice, slightly less firm than the KW imo but there isn't a huge difference, although the KW allows more ride height adjustment. KW V1 and V3 only differ in that the latter is adjustable, the spring rates are the same. All of these options are tried and trusted upgrades on the 964
roygarth said:
I agree as I won't be tracking and drive on bumpy B/C roads.
Does 'standard/OEM' mean buy from Porsche?
What brand are they?
Are Bilstein B6 similar?
Thanks.
I'm not sure if the Bilstein B6 will work with standard springs? Most people fit H&R green springs when putting the Bilstein shocks on. It will probably only cost you an extra £200 to change the springs at the same time. This combination is a tried and tested set up for a road 964. However, it's worth remembering that the detail is in the set up....so ensure you use someone who knows their 964s to fit them.Does 'standard/OEM' mean buy from Porsche?
What brand are they?
Are Bilstein B6 similar?
Thanks.
P.s. I believe the H&R greens are actually purple in colour now!
After renewing all parts of the suspension on my 993 and 'upgrading' to Koni FSDs instead of going OEM, I'd be tempted to leave well alone and go the OEM route.
The difference between OEM and FSDs IMHO is minimal and you may well find that an OPC will be cheaper on the supply and install. FYI I was quoted by OPC Solihull £2350.00 inclusive of VAT for 4 x dampers, 4 x M033 springs, 4 x top mounts, installation and GEO.
In the end I went FSDs and so had to get an Indy to install it all, and it cost more than 2.3K.
I truely believe that if the car is purely for A & B road use, it's better the devil you know is the way to go on suspension, as you know exactly what you're getting.
The difference between OEM and FSDs IMHO is minimal and you may well find that an OPC will be cheaper on the supply and install. FYI I was quoted by OPC Solihull £2350.00 inclusive of VAT for 4 x dampers, 4 x M033 springs, 4 x top mounts, installation and GEO.
In the end I went FSDs and so had to get an Indy to install it all, and it cost more than 2.3K.
I truely believe that if the car is purely for A & B road use, it's better the devil you know is the way to go on suspension, as you know exactly what you're getting.
Edited by Wozy68 on Monday 7th December 11:31
If it's currently on the original suspension then suspension components will probably be siezed, perished or broken which will greatly increase the bill.
Unless you drive on bump free roads then go for something no harder than stock suspension - I've experienced scuttle shake on a 964 Targa and it was the only thing I didn't like about the car.
The alignment is as important as the kit used so get it done somewhere with a good reputation. A properly setup 964 C2 is a dream to drive so get it right first time.
Unless you drive on bump free roads then go for something no harder than stock suspension - I've experienced scuttle shake on a 964 Targa and it was the only thing I didn't like about the car.
The alignment is as important as the kit used so get it done somewhere with a good reputation. A properly setup 964 C2 is a dream to drive so get it right first time.
roygarth said:
Thanks…and these work with Porsche springs?
I don't know. I think it is hard to make a case to replace the shocks but not the springs...if the shocks are tired then so are the springs. Also, if you are going to all the trouble of getting the car off the ground, being without it for a day, replacing the shocks, getting the alignment done, then why leave the old springs on? Heck, I put new tyres on as well. It was like a new car! One of the best things I ever did for the car.Hope that is of some use.
Nick
ean21 said:
I don't know. I think it is hard to make a case to replace the shocks but not the springs...if the shocks are tired then so are the springs. Also, if you are going to all the trouble of getting the car off the ground, being without it for a day, replacing the shocks, getting the alignment done, then why leave the old springs on? Heck, I put new tyres on as well. It was like a new car! One of the best things I ever did for the car.
Hope that is of some use.
Nick
Long story but I recently put new Boge (for Porsche) shocks, and springs from Porsche on rear. Want to renew fronts now but similar Boge for front are not available now. Plus Porsche front shocks are not currently available from Porsche!Hope that is of some use.
Nick
That's a difficult position to be in. I would hold out for a matching set for the front, and maybe try other suppliers to get them. Someone outside the UK perhaps (Gert at Carnewal maybe). Boge availability may change.
If push really comes to shove and in spring you just can't get Boge then if it were me I'd put it down to experience and and replace all four corners. It will drive properly, and also be better for you if you consider selling.
There's a lot to be said for doing a job fully and once, but I do hope that you can get a set of Boges on the front to get it all matching.
If push really comes to shove and in spring you just can't get Boge then if it were me I'd put it down to experience and and replace all four corners. It will drive properly, and also be better for you if you consider selling.
There's a lot to be said for doing a job fully and once, but I do hope that you can get a set of Boges on the front to get it all matching.
roygarth said:
Long story but I recently put new Boge (for Porsche) shocks, and springs from Porsche on rear. Want to renew fronts now but similar Boge for front are not available now. Plus Porsche front shocks are not currently available from Porsche!
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