WAP version of GS

[mel]

Ted, how about a trimmed down WAP version of the Gassing station and maybe the daily news section with maybe only a few of the topics (general,meets,LM etc) It's just it would have been handy at Le Mans and I'm sure would be a bonus for Meets in the UK etc. Or is that a massive task and not high on PH priority board ?????????

[PetrolTed]

I have experimented with WAP and do have a number of admin facilities on my phone that I manage the site with.

Are there any WAP devices out there with big enough screens for something like this?

[philshort]

Wrong question Ted!

To be of any use generally you need to cater for the modal - design for the WAP device with the biggest screen out there and 90% of WAP devices will find your site unusable!

Sorry if this is teaching grannies to suck eggs, but designing for premium hardware then expecting everyone to upgrade in MicroSh1te type arrogance - not what we'd expect from you Ted!

[Roadrunner]

I have the WAP compatible ericsson T68 with colour screen. Get on it Ted! Perfect for hols!!

[CarZee]

WAP is total shit - a complete waste of time for 99% of applications*. And it'd be bloody expensive over GPRS too - look at how big a fully populated page in the GS is, it could end up easily costing a quid every tmie you wanted to catch up on the day's action. Anyway, screens on phones are too small.

*The remaining 1% is the one Ted's evidently already found..

[philshort]

quote:WAP is total shit - a complete waste of time for 99% of applications

see what I mean Ted!

I don't entirely agree - though I don't use it too much myself. It was a novelty for a while on my Nokia 7110e, but I got fed up with the phone crashing. However, I earn a crust writing web database applications, and these are WAP enabled by default using the toolset I do. Nothing impresses a corporate exec more then remote access to their corporate database via WAP - and this can be genuinely useful. Honest!

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[GregE240]

quote:
WAP is total shit - a complete waste of time for 99% of applications*. And it'd be bloody expensive...

Agree, agree. It's as slow as buggery unless you have GPRS (where it's still crappy). I'm not sure if it's quicker on a network like Orange which has HSCSD - anybody ?

It is bloody expensive as well. And that's in the UK - to take RR's point up, would it work abroad ? You would be on a different network, so you would need that network's WAP details in order to do anything.

Also, most hotels have wised up to this Internet lark now. The last 2 hotels I've stayed in had either a terminal with a swipe card built in (Heathrow Hilton), or a bloody decent Internet pipe and a PC for anyone to use, albeit a bit locked down (yet you logged in with an admin equivalent id etc...oh well, halfway there )

[Roadrunner]

I've never used my WAP yet - haven't read the instructions yet.

[GregE240]

quote:
I've never used my WAP yet - haven't read the instructions yet.

You haven't missed much, Road. TRUST ME.

WAP is best summed up like this:

[PetrolTed]

If you accept its limitations WAP is ok. It was hyped as the next big thing which it's obviously not.

I use WAP on my 7110 to:

- read news snippets on the train
- check the lottery results
- check train timetables occasionally
- reboot the PH server when I get alerted it's f***ed and I'm out on the beers

As for designing for the ultimate hardware, that wasn't really the basis of my question. I just wondered if new technology was bigger than my 7110 and therefore may be of use. GS on the 7110 would be a waste of time but if the average device could now cope with something useful then it might have been worth considering. Sounds like it's not so I'll go back to bug fixing rather than generating more bug soaked code

[mel]

sorry i asked

I will add I know FA about WAP but last week got a free upgrade from my old Timeport (of the arse looks like a Griff fame ) to a bells a whistles T68i with colour and loads of stuff I don't understand, this got me thinking what could I use this for that would be any good ????? short answer ringing people up and FA else

[GregE240]

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.....short answer ringing people up and FA else

Well, it's good to talk...

OK, from memory, the T68i offers the following:

-GPRS - about 3x as quick WAP browsing than a conventional WAP enabled phone.

-VCard support (electronic business cards)

-Concantenated SMS support (means you can now type mate rather than m8 and you won't run out of text)

-Voice controlled dial, answer, call reject etc - though it might get scared of your voice, Mel

-Colour screen supporting wallpaper (so you could have a pic of your bike, for example)

-Tri-band GSM, so it will work in the US. Handy if you er, go to America !

Right that's it, and anyways, it was free so stop moaning.....

[philshort]

quote:reboot the PH server when I get alerted it's f***ed and I'm out on the beers

That sounds like a neat trick, and one I could use! How is that done exactly? If its f***ed how do you get it to reboot?

Probably going to answer my own question here. Its not the server that's f***ed, its the website, and you connect to your admin website and restart the site/reboot the server. Is that it?

[ZZR600]

I had a samsung a300 which i stuffed in my pint for being the most unuser friendly phone ever but never used the wap on it , i now have a 6210 on orange and the wap service is pretty quick the one on the bt cellnet work phone though is shite

[GregE240]

That's because the Orange network supports HSCSD, which allows connection speeds approaching your 56K modem - over 40K connections are not uncommon, and to be expected.

Cellnet is still stuck in the dark ages of 9600 connections. Or should that be O2 ? Whatever - different name, still the same cack service.

Disgruntled Cellnet Customer from Northamptonshire.

[ZZR600]

Greg i dont know how you find cellnet but down here they are hopeless the company that i work for swears by them but round here orange roolz