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We don't have one! There are a lot of manufacturers now banging out EV's. Your current news article features the BMW i3 yet there is no such place to discuss them.
I think it would be a great place to start. My angle is I'm interested in tuning EV cars for performance - stuff the economy I want to see how fast you can make them, after all speed matters
How about it guys and girls?
I think it would be a great place to start. My angle is I'm interested in tuning EV cars for performance - stuff the economy I want to see how fast you can make them, after all speed matters
How about it guys and girls?
sherman said:
Would the BMW i3 not be discussed in the BMW section or in the computer section?
Also the name of the site is PISTONheads not EVheads.
Yes yes but the other half of the slogan is, "Speed Matters" and it does. It is both important and so is the discussion of speed which is why an EV is no different. Also the name of the site is PISTONheads not EVheads.
Back in the day this site was a TVR forum!
0a said:
God help us!
Indeed, which is why I'm asking Admin AW111 said:
I think it would be a good idea; I am also interested in the performance EV arena.
May have to pre-emptively ban about 20% of PH users, or it will go the way of the car salesman forums.
Here we go they're waking up at the back, glad I'm not the only one May have to pre-emptively ban about 20% of PH users, or it will go the way of the car salesman forums.
There are plenty of tuning options for EV's. As a PLC programmer and automation engineer I understand electronics, batteries and drive systems. No one currently mods EV cars, and there are no tuners I know of. This would be a great place to discuss this not to mention the traffic it would bring from the rest of the web.
Whether people like it or not, petrol is a finite resource and EV's will eventually take over. If we get to have an input on their evolution I think that would be a good thing
Good point - maybe it just needs nestling in a different forum. Either way it is the future and needs to be treated as a separate entity else the normal PH wars will commence.
Either way, EV's are the future and not accepting them would be unwise for any publication be it be written or online.
Surprised Haymarket has not published a comment or their view on the matter yet
Either way, EV's are the future and not accepting them would be unwise for any publication be it be written or online.
Surprised Haymarket has not published a comment or their view on the matter yet
LordFlathead said:
No one currently mods EV cars, and there are no tuners I know of. This would be a great place to discuss this not to mention the traffic it would bring from the rest of the web.
I've modded the electric side of Honda hybrids IMA systems for years with some quite impressive gains, that counts as half way there I strongly agree we need an EV/Hybrid car/mods section. It's the future like it or not.
Edited by peterperkins on Sunday 27th October 06:33
Discussions on alternative powertrains (hybrid, EV, fuel cell, possibly other stuff) are currently spread throughout the forums but concentrate mainly in GG. The debate tends to be lively and educational, but can also get polluted by those who seem to resent its presence in GG, and generally try to make the conversation harder.
It's not just Prius and Insight any more. Mercedes, BMW, Nissan, Ford and Renault are all producing alt-power vehicles, and looking at the XL1, it seems that VW will jump on the bandwagon soon. Neither is it just small family cars; think P1 and NSX.
I'm not aware of another decent forum where enthusiasts can discuss this topic in its entirety. Of course there are specialist forums out there for Prius, Tesla etc. but that's not the same and they are often very US-centric.
It's also an opportunity for PH to target ads towards the readers, whom I imagine might share some common traits that can be targetted by advertisers.
So, I agree the time is right.
It's not just Prius and Insight any more. Mercedes, BMW, Nissan, Ford and Renault are all producing alt-power vehicles, and looking at the XL1, it seems that VW will jump on the bandwagon soon. Neither is it just small family cars; think P1 and NSX.
I'm not aware of another decent forum where enthusiasts can discuss this topic in its entirety. Of course there are specialist forums out there for Prius, Tesla etc. but that's not the same and they are often very US-centric.
It's also an opportunity for PH to target ads towards the readers, whom I imagine might share some common traits that can be targetted by advertisers.
So, I agree the time is right.
TooLateForAName said:
They do keep ignoring these requests.
Amusing that ferrari are justified in having 4 forums all of their own and yet they can't justify a single EV/Alt fuels forum. I think there are more posts in threads asking for an EV forum than there are in several of the ferrari forums....
Agree that an EV forum should be set up - after all if we want to carry on playing with our toys we may have to accept that EV's will be how we get to and from work.Amusing that ferrari are justified in having 4 forums all of their own and yet they can't justify a single EV/Alt fuels forum. I think there are more posts in threads asking for an EV forum than there are in several of the ferrari forums....
BTW though, I think that the 'old' FML forum was much preferred by owners/ viewers/ posters than the new multiple forum set up
fatboy b said:
I can just see it now....
[geek voice] i've just managed to install another bank of cells in my battery to boost my voltage by 15%, do I need to tell my insurance company, and will it invalidate my warranty? Will it burn my motors out? [/geek voice ]
Well if your vehicle has bee modified in anyway you need to inform your insurance company. [geek voice] i've just managed to install another bank of cells in my battery to boost my voltage by 15%, do I need to tell my insurance company, and will it invalidate my warranty? Will it burn my motors out? [/geek voice ]
Let's look at that statement above; If you raise the voltage you can make your motor spin faster but that's probably not the best way to increase performance. I would go down the increase the current route, by adding your batteries is parallel not in series. This would give you more amps and not volts. Therefore you can send higher torque to the motors for longer. If you want more speed that can be done with gearing or by increasing wheel diameter.
Torque is the kiddy with motors, it's there in abundance from zero to redline and there are no sweet spots unless introduced by a gearbox. By having more amps in your battery pack, you can crank up the rate it throws it out subject to the motor being able to take advantage of that.
/geek
fatboy b said:
I can just see it now....
[geek voice] i've just managed to install another bank of cells in my battery to boost my voltage by 15%, do I need to tell my insurance company, and will it invalidate my warranty? Will it burn my motors out? [/geek voice ]
[tvr voice]How do I make my EV louder? [/tvr voice][geek voice] i've just managed to install another bank of cells in my battery to boost my voltage by 15%, do I need to tell my insurance company, and will it invalidate my warranty? Will it burn my motors out? [/geek voice ]
Where can I get a de-cat done?
LordFlathead said:
Well if your vehicle has bee modified in anyway you need to inform your insurance company.
Let's look at that statement above; If you raise the voltage you can make your motor spin faster but that's probably not the best way to increase performance. I would go down the increase the current route, by adding your batteries is parallel not in series. This would give you more amps and not volts. Therefore you can send higher torque to the motors for longer. If you want more speed that can be done with gearing or by increasing wheel diameter.
Torque is the kiddy with motors, it's there in abundance from zero to redline and there are no sweet spots unless introduced by a gearbox. By having more amps in your battery pack, you can crank up the rate it throws it out subject to the motor being able to take advantage of that.
/geek
Good Grief Let's look at that statement above; If you raise the voltage you can make your motor spin faster but that's probably not the best way to increase performance. I would go down the increase the current route, by adding your batteries is parallel not in series. This would give you more amps and not volts. Therefore you can send higher torque to the motors for longer. If you want more speed that can be done with gearing or by increasing wheel diameter.
Torque is the kiddy with motors, it's there in abundance from zero to redline and there are no sweet spots unless introduced by a gearbox. By having more amps in your battery pack, you can crank up the rate it throws it out subject to the motor being able to take advantage of that.
/geek
Have you gents seen Chris Harris's comments on the Drayson EV racer?
So is that we all crave more power, is it faster delivery, or specification - what defines a Petrolhead? For me it's all about the engine - the feel, the power and the acceleration. I therefore have previously associated Petrol with power.. that's really not going to be the case for ever is it? How will Haymarket carry on their business model when petrol is extinct and people recharge instead? Will they still be Petrolheads then?
Pistonheads is a brand name but has the opportunity to capitolise on the new technology with the very same name. After all what I think we are saying from a brand point of view - Pistonhead'ers are people that share a common interest; the love of all things automotive and the passion of talking about them and sharing our views as a motoring community. Why then is the new technology so alien to comprehend?
Come on Haymarket, a comment from the office is welcomed. I'm not trying to stir things up, I'd like to think of myself as an entrepreneur and I'm throwing you a bone here
Chris Harris said:
The thrust is hard to comprehend at first, - actually, scratch that, summoning the courage to push the long-travel throttle pedal to the floor is more difficult. For the first loop I don't manage it, and still the car seemingly is picked up and flung into the next corner. Next time around I try full throttle - or whatever the new phrase for maximum everything will be on electric racers - and the effect numbs the brain. Because it is so instant. It just happens.
We think we understand the phrase 'throttle response' when in fact we've been messing about on the fringes for a century. You push your right foot, you end up 200 yards away from where you were and your head says "How did that happen?" I'm guilty of over-using the word, but it's extraordinary. Does it feel like three times the thrust of a Veyron pushing half the kerbweight? No, it doesn't. Because that would feel like a fighter jet doing aerobatics.
Just wow. I've always been a Petrol Head but now there is something new and exciting with more rawness to 'the machine'. We think we understand the phrase 'throttle response' when in fact we've been messing about on the fringes for a century. You push your right foot, you end up 200 yards away from where you were and your head says "How did that happen?" I'm guilty of over-using the word, but it's extraordinary. Does it feel like three times the thrust of a Veyron pushing half the kerbweight? No, it doesn't. Because that would feel like a fighter jet doing aerobatics.
So is that we all crave more power, is it faster delivery, or specification - what defines a Petrolhead? For me it's all about the engine - the feel, the power and the acceleration. I therefore have previously associated Petrol with power.. that's really not going to be the case for ever is it? How will Haymarket carry on their business model when petrol is extinct and people recharge instead? Will they still be Petrolheads then?
Pistonheads is a brand name but has the opportunity to capitolise on the new technology with the very same name. After all what I think we are saying from a brand point of view - Pistonhead'ers are people that share a common interest; the love of all things automotive and the passion of talking about them and sharing our views as a motoring community. Why then is the new technology so alien to comprehend?
Come on Haymarket, a comment from the office is welcomed. I'm not trying to stir things up, I'd like to think of myself as an entrepreneur and I'm throwing you a bone here
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