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Oystercatcher

Original Poster:

481 posts

231 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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What is this and why is it waiting for 5 seconds every time I view any page on PH?

Starting to get very annoying...

TonyRPH

13,536 posts

197 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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I had the same problem - it's now on my blacklist, along with all the other advert / tracking st that PH like to serve up.


It's this:

<script type="text/javascript" src="//tealium.hs.llnwd.net/o43/utag/haymarket/pistonheads/prod/utag.js" xmlns=""></script><!--tagmanBody End--><script tpye="text/javascript">

Also a typo ^^^^^^^ "script tpye" - someone hasn't been checking their work...


ETA: From donottrackplus.com

donottrackplus.com said:
llnwd.net is a domain used by LimeLightNetworks which is an advertising company that is part of a network of sites, cookies, and other technologies used to track you, what you do and what you click on, as you go from site to site, surfing the Web. Over time, sites like llnwd.net can help make an online profile of you usually including the sites you visit, your searches, purchases, and other behavior. Your profile can then be exchanged and sold between various companies like llnwd.net as well as being sold to other advertisers and marketers.
Edited by TonyRPH on Sunday 3rd November 21:40

Oystercatcher

Original Poster:

481 posts

231 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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What are you using to blacklist?

I've tried my usual trick of adding a 127.0.0.1 for it, but it's not working.

ETA: Noscript has sorted it smile

Edited by Oystercatcher on Sunday 3rd November 21:35

Turn7

25,676 posts

250 months

Sunday 3rd November 2013
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Donottrackme added to Firefox seems work....

MattDell

3,302 posts

184 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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I understand your concern, but do realize we serve parts of our Javascript code within tealium so if some parts of the site stop working for you make sure to try enabling it.

Also, for what it's worth IE seems to struggle loading scripts moreso than modern browsers like Chrome or Firefox.

TonyRPH

13,536 posts

197 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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Fix your typo, and pages will load properly too...

"<script tpye="text/javascript">"

^^^^^^^^^^

MattDell

3,302 posts

184 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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Hah. I know just the man to blame for that.

I'll hit him for you next time I see him.

Oystercatcher

Original Poster:

481 posts

231 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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thumbup

Is it a recent thing? Can't say I noticed it before this last weekend. Perhaps it's coincidence, but I upgraded Firefox to 25.0 on Saturday...

MattDell

3,302 posts

184 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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We switched to Tealium around May. I have noticed recently their CDN has been slow to respond, but I'm not sure why.

TonyRPH

13,536 posts

197 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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@Matt.

With PH being a Haymarket company (like What HiFi) I guess you're planning on following the same path as What HiFi, and delivering content from llnwd.net as well.

Since blocking llnwd.net, I note that the What HiFi site no longer works properly for me, and further investigation reveals that they are delivering much of their content (CSS, images) from http://cdn.whathifi.com, which is aliased to haymarket.vo.llnwd.net and images.cdn.whathifi.com is an alias for haymarket.vo.llnwd.net

Well, (for me at least) that's one less site to visit now, as I abhor my www activity being tracked and traced in this manner.

I suspect I'm not the only one, and if PH goes this way, you'll be losing me too (for what that's worth, as you'll not be generating any ad revenue from me anyway..).


MattDell

3,302 posts

184 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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Our scripts are hosted in Amazon Web Serivces, but I can say if you block llnwd.net then a lot more than Haymarket brands are going to be inaccessible for you. You're going to struggle with BBC and Facebook, most likely.

Also just because something is coming from the limelight network, it doesn't necessarily mean it's tracking code. Plus it's not all sinister this tracking stuff. Ultimately all they're trying to do is see how people interact with their site so they can make improvements; that's why we use it. And if you don't think our competitors are doing the same then I've got a bridge to sell you. wink

TonyRPH

13,536 posts

197 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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MattDell said:
Our scripts are hosted in Amazon Web Serivces, but I can say if you block llnwd.net then a lot more than Haymarket brands are going to be inaccessible for you. You're going to struggle with BBC and Facebook, most likely.
Well, IMHO Facebook is an evil daemon anyway, and I closed my account a couple of years ago so no loss there.

bbc.co.uk works absolutely fine for me (although I rarely use it). I'm not aware of using any other Haymarket brands...

MattDell said:
Also just because something is coming from the limelight network, it doesn't necessarily mean it's tracking code. Plus it's not all sinister this tracking stuff. Ultimately all they're trying to do is see how people interact with their site so they can make improvements; that's why we use it.
I'm sure there are many other ways to see "how the site is being used" so improvements can be made - I think you have more than enough user feedback here on PH for that... smile

MattDell said:
And if you don't think our competitors are doing the same then I've got a bridge to sell you. wink
I'm only interested if it's an old rust free steel bridge smile

And I'm under no illusions about what other sites do, and to date I am blocking 107 sites, which leaves me with a remarkably advert free / tracking free experience...

I also find that my "site experience" is frequently spoiled by sites trying to load content from CDNs that simply cannot deliver the content fast enough, or are down for other reasons such as routing or DNS issues.

So do you see the irony?

As a webmaster myself, I prefer to deliver everything from the domain / site itself - at least that way you're not dependant on someone else's infrastructure for a complete site experience.


TonyRPH

13,536 posts

197 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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And so it begins - my "broken" Pistonheads!

Just as well I'm not that bothered about the images...

host cdn.images.pistonheads.com
cdn.images.pistonheads.com is an alias for haymarket.vo.llnwd.net.