Fraudulent Buyer

[MalcQV]

I am selling my daughter's MX5 in the classified. I had an email from [e-mail].
Basically, they suggest they're poorly and homebound, ask a few question about the car and then make an offer.
They want you to request payment from PayPal and then I believe ask you to pay the 'collection' agent through a Western Union account (after offering payment via PayPal).
I guess they take back the money (if it ever leaves their account) through PayPal's buyer safety program and you lose the 'agents fee'.

Just thought it worth a mention.
PH classifieds were also on the ball with this and sent me an email warning me.

[Slyjoe]

I had the same one contact me about my MX5 - same story - in hospital etc - I made her straight away and said I would only deal face to face.
I also just recieved a mail from Pistonheads warning me of this buyer - so thanks PH
This is one I got a couple of days ago.

This email enquiry has been sent from and all replies should be sent to this address.

Someone has sent you a message:

Email:

Name: Francis

Phone:

Message:
" Hello, i've got some questions:
-Any receipt of the cambelt changed?
-Is there any leak/smoke/rattle/whining/oil-water consumption on the engine?
-Is there any funny noise while driving the car? (bearings, gearbox etc...)
-Is there a fully operating factory/aftermarket alarm fitted?
-How many keys/fobs do you have?
-Any advisory on last MOT or anything needed before next one?
-Are there any kerb/scratch on wheels? Any rust/dent on body?
-How are the tyres/brakes all around? What brand/size?

Cheers, I'm looking forward to hearing from you "

Advert link: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Edited by Scrump on Monday 24th September 19:55

[MalcQV]

It seemed odd to me from the start because she was homebound. I played along for awhile offering my own 'agent' The emails dried up eventually... Aston Martin is complete bullst from me
Read bottom upwards

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Good morning, sorry but paypal is the best I can do at this time. I can't visit the bank due to my health issues and I'm sending the car abroad
Regards
Sara

On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:53 PM, MalcQV Ferrari <*******> wrote:
Hi Sara,
Thanks unfortunately I don't have a PayPal account. I've lost a considerable amount with PayPal previously selling one of my Aston Martin DB5's with it and swore not to use PayPal again.
I use an executive car transport company called ****** and they will do me a superb deal. I'd wager better than your guy . I know it sounds expensive but I do a lot of work with him.
What do you think?

Sent from a phone

On 9 May 2014, at 22:13, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]> wrote:

Hi, I have contacted the delivery agent, so I'm waiting for their response . Meanwhile you should send money request of £1500 to my PayPal account [e-mail]. I will send the money and choose a good time for the pick up after payment has been received.

Regards
Sara

On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:25 PM, MalcQV Ferrari <*******> wrote:
So how's payment for the car made then?

Sent from a phone

On 9 May 2014, at 19:28, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]> wrote:
Ok then, I can do £1500.. Where is it located? I will need to contact the delivery agent to know the cost and expenses for the pick up from your location.

Regards
Sara

Edited by MalcQV on Monday 12th May 15:15

[Loteuk]

Probably posted before somewhere but PH are seemingly under attack with pretty creative scammers:-

Had this the last time I sold a car through PH - a buyer responds to a classified, claims the car is advertised twice and wants to know the real price (one of the adverts is claimed to be less money)
When clicking on the link they provide to the ad (as I did the last time - duh) it opens your keystrokes to their computer - thus letting them see all you type I guess.

Today I had another response on a car I am selling:

Message:
" Good evening!
I am very interested in your car. Can you please let me know what is the real price for it? I saw your add on Piston-Heads but another listing has the same car up for sale at half your asking price.
Email: [e-mail]

Would like to find them..............!

[Simpo Two]

Loteuk said:

Message:
" Good evening!
I am very interested in your car. Can you please let me know what is the real price for it? I saw your add on Piston-Heads but another listing has the same car up for sale at half your asking price.
Email: [e-mail]

I would say 'Well buy that one then!'


'When negotiating fails'

[Marc W]

Just had a message from the "buyer" on the previous MX5 post. After reading the above, he'll be getting ignored!

[Terminator X]

Western Union you say

TX.

[Monkeylegend]

Still at it 18 months later, someone must be falling for it then.

[cirian75]

just sign up their email address to men seeking men dating websites, the stranger, the better.

[Ryo_7]

Slyjoe said:

I had the same one contact me about my MX5 - same story - in hospital etc - I made her straight away and said I would only deal face to face.
I also just recieved a mail from Pistonheads warning me of this buyer - so thanks PH
This is one I got a couple of days ago.

This email enquiry has been sent from and all replies should be sent to this address.

Someone has sent you a message:

Email:

Name: Francis

Phone:

Message:
" Hello, i've got some questions:
-Any receipt of the cambelt changed?
-Is there any leak/smoke/rattle/whining/oil-water consumption on the engine?
-Is there any funny noise while driving the car? (bearings, gearbox etc...)
-Is there a fully operating factory/aftermarket alarm fitted?
-How many keys/fobs do you have?
-Any advisory on last MOT or anything needed before next one?
-Are there any kerb/scratch on wheels? Any rust/dent on body?
-How are the tyres/brakes all around? What brand/size?

Cheers, I'm looking forward to hearing from you "

Advert link: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

So I just found out my email was reported as scammer ? Where is the issue to ask some details about a 3k car where the advert says only "good car" ?
I'm contacting pistonheads to make this clear, I'm not a scammer, just a potential buyer....

Edited by Scrump on Monday 24th September 19:54