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macdeb

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8,756 posts

284 months

Monday 7th December 2015
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Why has the tagline 'speed matters' been dropped?
Why have all girlie pictures of cars been removed from previous topics?
Just asking,,,,,

RacingPete

9,195 posts

233 months

Wednesday 9th December 2015
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macdeb said:
Why has the tagline 'speed matters' been dropped?
Why have all girlie pictures of cars been removed from previous topics?
Just asking,,,,,
Speed matters has been re-purposed as the name of our new weekly newsletter - so it hasn't been dropped. If you do not get it, and want to see Speed Matters against PistonHeads, then sign up here -> http://pages.haymarket.com/piston_heads/PHDS-Full-...

It is rather good and you will just be in time for this Thursday's output, which last week looked like this.



The second question, I am unsure of what previous topics you are referring to, so if you point me the direction, we will be able to answer that question better.

macdeb

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8,756 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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'Speed Matters' used to be the tag line, it used to appear on home page, it is no longer a tag line so it has been dropped. Please don't insult with the 're-purposed' excuse.
Off the top of my head, Random pics of TVR's. Have a look and see all the girlie pics have gone.
Why don't PH just man up and own up that it's a decision that's been made because neither are seen as PC here anymore?

RacingPete

9,195 posts

233 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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So if it is seen as not PC, why would we use it on our main weekly email if we are trying to move away from it?

Did you sign up for the email?

macdeb

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8,756 posts

284 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Sorry bloke, I don't want to have a go, but, As expected, question avoided 'again'.
The tagline has been dropped, photos deleted. fact, end of.

Edited by macdeb on Sunday 13th December 15:31

DanL

6,586 posts

294 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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It's the end of the world! This free website isn't exactly to my taste, and has changed!

Seriously, what material difference does the tag line make to your use or enjoyment of the site? I ask as a long term member, but otherwise nothing to do with PH (i.e. I'm not a mod or staff member).

As for the girlie pictures, they've always been deleted when reported or noticed by mods to keep the website workplace friendly. Last thing I need is my director walking behind me during my lunch break to see what looks like a naked girl sprawled across a car...

ATG

23,673 posts

301 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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macdeb said:
Sorry bloke, I don't want to have a go, but, As expected, question avoided 'again'.
The tagline has been dropped, photos deleted. fact, end of.

Edited by macdeb on Sunday 13th December 15:31
This year why not ask Father Christmas for a sense of proportion and a stocking full of common sense?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

225 months

Sunday 13th December 2015
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Personally I feel the OP has a point. This whole "it's haymarket's house so you play by their rules" doesn't wash I'm afraid, not when a forum is created to allow its users to express their free views.

Is anyone so stupid to think if you don't like the way things are happening you have to put up or shut up?

The tag line has been dropped and no one at PH has had the balls to explain why confused

Should it offend the sites owners, why not just come out and say it rather than the slightly poxy explanations that have thus far been offered. Let's be honest, the exclusion of "speed matters" and a few girly pics won't drastically change the site but it would be nice to have a strong editorial message and more importantly-allow its readers/contributers to understand what exactly it is that message is.

My 2p

macdeb

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8,756 posts

284 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Personally I feel the OP has a point. This whole "it's haymarket's house so you play by their rules" doesn't wash I'm afraid, not when a forum is created to allow its users to express their free views.

Is anyone so stupid to think if you don't like the way things are happening you have to put up or shut up?

The tag line has been dropped and no one at PH has had the balls to explain why confused

Should it offend the sites owners, why not just come out and say it rather than the slightly poxy explanations that have thus far been offered. Let's be honest, the exclusion of "speed matters" and a few girly pics won't drastically change the site but it would be nice to have a strong editorial message and more importantly-allow its readers/contributers to understand what exactly it is that message is.

My 2p
^^^^ thanks, much appreciated that someone 'gets it'.

Megaflow

11,467 posts

254 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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RacingPete said:
So if it is seen as not PC, why would we use it on our main weekly email if we are trying to move away from it?

Did you sign up for the email?
Why would we sign up for even more advertising?

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,756 posts

284 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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ATG said:
macdeb said:
Sorry bloke, I don't want to have a go, but, As expected, question avoided 'again'.
The tagline has been dropped, photos deleted. fact, end of.

Edited by macdeb on Sunday 13th December 15:31
This year why not ask Father Christmas for a sense of proportion and a stocking full of common sense?
confused that's totally lost on me,,,,,

B'stard Child

31,057 posts

275 months

Monday 14th December 2015
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macdeb said:
ATG said:
macdeb said:
Sorry bloke, I don't want to have a go, but, As expected, question avoided 'again'.
The tagline has been dropped, photos deleted. fact, end of.

Edited by macdeb on Sunday 13th December 15:31
This year why not ask Father Christmas for a sense of proportion and a stocking full of common sense?
confused that's totally lost on me,,,,,
I thought it was quite clear............

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,756 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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B'stard Child said:
macdeb said:
ATG said:
macdeb said:
Sorry bloke, I don't want to have a go, but, As expected, question avoided 'again'.
The tagline has been dropped, photos deleted. fact, end of.

Edited by macdeb on Sunday 13th December 15:31
This year why not ask Father Christmas for a sense of proportion and a stocking full of common sense?
confused that's totally lost on me,,,,,
I thought it was quite clear............
To the ignorant maybe,,,,,

B'stard Child

31,057 posts

275 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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macdeb said:
B'stard Child said:
macdeb said:
ATG said:
macdeb said:
Sorry bloke, I don't want to have a go, but, As expected, question avoided 'again'.
The tagline has been dropped, photos deleted. fact, end of.

Edited by macdeb on Sunday 13th December 15:31
This year why not ask Father Christmas for a sense of proportion and a stocking full of common sense?
confused that's totally lost on me,,,,,
I thought it was quite clear............
To the ignorant maybe,,,,,
Possibly but if it needs spelling out....

What he said was whilst important to you it's not exactly the end of life as we know it and you are probably wasting your time.

Pistonheads isn't a co-operative - it can and does do exactly what it wants regardless what people think about it.

What answer exactly would be the right one?

Dan_1981

18,092 posts

228 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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I'd sugges the correct answer would be....

"We dropped speed matters as it is not a pc message for our commercial entity"

This would then generate much nashing of teeth and pounding of keyboards, generating page after page of frothing indignation from dozens of PH users.

Haymarket can then sell advertising space on all of these pages, to advertisers who use massive pop up ads, or noisy ones or ones that use video.

These ads will generate further pages of moaning whinginess which can further be sold on to advertisers.

Repeat til end.

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,756 posts

284 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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Point completely lost. Perhaps we should just fast forward and watch a list of PC adverts rolling past with only a remote chance of expressing an opinion on those as long as they are PC and accepted.
RIP PH, a place where useful advice was freely given but is now so diluted, you're welcome to it.
ETA My original question has not been answered, that speaks volumes.

Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 15th December 20:16

RacingPete

9,195 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th December 2015
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macdeb said:
Point completely lost. Perhaps we should just fast forward and watch a list of PC adverts rolling past with only a remote chance of expressing an opinion on those as long as they are PC and accepted.
RIP PH, a place where useful advice was freely given but is now so diluted, you're welcome to it.
ETA My original question has not been answered, that speaks volumes.

Edited by macdeb on Tuesday 15th December 20:16
I am not sure that any answer will satisfy you, unless it is the answer you think it should be.

My answer as said before. The tag line didn't fit (in a design sense) with the logo redesign we did, and wasn't done for any PC reason.

Also, it is the title of the weekly newsletter - and thus still being used on PistonHeads. A point you have chosen to ignore.

macdeb

Original Poster:

8,756 posts

284 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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RacingPete said:
I am not sure that any answer will satisfy you, unless it is the answer you think it should be.

My answer as said before. The tag line didn't fit (in a design sense) with the logo redesign we did, and wasn't done for any PC reason.

Also, it is the title of the weekly newsletter - and thus still being used on PistonHeads. A point you have chosen to ignore.
An honest answer would suffice, I don't buy the 'didn't fit' nonsense and a point you have chosen to ignore is my question on pictures. [what next to be deleted, black cars?] So, in the absence of honesty I have my answer and will leave it there.

markoc

1,084 posts

225 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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"Pistonheads - earning money for Haymarket matters" wink

Perhaps even those in their ivory tower considered that one a bit risky...

In the grand scheme of things it's not the end of the world, things change.



Edited by markoc on Wednesday 16th December 17:42

Number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Wednesday 16th December 2015
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markoc said:
"Pistonheads - earning money for Haymarket Lord Heseltine matters"

Perhaps even those in their ivory tower considered that one a bit risky...

In the grand scheme of things it's not the end of the world, things change.



Edited by markoc on Wednesday 16th December 17:42
Corrected that for you wink