Bad Taste Jokes, censor them because someone may be offended
Bad Taste Jokes, censor them because someone may be offended
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Stickyfinger

Original Poster:

8,429 posts

134 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Title says it all.

Should the tradition of bad taste and offensive jokes (even topical) be censored because they may offend someone ?

Are they offensive, who has the right to be offended, should that offence be used as a reason to censor/delete

Where does this leave us, does it effect free speech, should they be "posted and be dammed"

Do they show people do care and are thinking/reacting about the event or are they just an indicator of a less sensitive modern world.




bitchstewie

67,241 posts

239 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Guessing you're on about this little display of Pistonheads at its finest?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

It's pretty simply in my book, if you're in someone else's house you abide by their rules - free speech doesn't come into it.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Stickyfinger said:
Title says it all.

Should the tradition of bad taste and offensive jokes (even topical) be censored because they may offend someone ?

Are they offensive, who has the right to be offended, should that offence be used as a reason to censor/delete

Where does this leave us, does it effect free speech, should they be "posted and be dammed"

Do they show people do care and are thinking/reacting about the event or are they just an indicator of a less sensitive modern world.
What WAS wrong with Bernard Manning, anyway?

Voldemort

7,540 posts

307 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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bhstewie said:
Guessing you're on about this little display of Pistonheads at its finest?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

It's pretty simply in my book, if you're in someone else's house you abide by their rules - free speech doesn't come into it.
The people who make 'funny' remarks show themselves for what they are: makes it easier to identify the aholes.


Stickyfinger

Original Poster:

8,429 posts

134 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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bhstewie said:
Guessing you're on about this little display of Pistonheads at its finest?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

It's pretty simply in my book, if you're in someone else's house you abide by their rules - free speech doesn't come into it.
....I accept the home owner does


So, if your offended you just need to make so much fuss/shout/scream and swear till the home owner shuts the party down ?....welcome to the new world where you just make so much fuss your actions have the effect you wanted.
A bit like a child having a tantrum

mwstewart

8,545 posts

217 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Reminds me of Paedogeddon https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU except it was hilarious.

I think the jokes in the other thread were in poor taste. Misjudged.

NelsonM3

1,777 posts

200 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Some people just cannot accept how other people deal with grief or tragic cicumstances. It's amplified by the facebook and twitter generation; everyone thinks their opinion is important when really they should just switch their laptop off and get on with daily life.

I remember years ago going to a family friends funeral. He had been married to a Tunisian woman for about 6 months at the time and a normally reserved Christian funeral was turned into complete chaos with her and the relatives frantically wailing and hugging the Coffin in the middle of the Ceromony. Very strange but I guess thats just the way she wanted to grieve.

I have worked in the NHS for the last few years and still remember visiting our first expected death. It kept me up for most of the night but in the hundreds since we now use humour to deal with it. If someone from the "outside" heard our comments I'm sure there would be a complaint, but you do what you need to so you can keep going to work every day.

As said on that thread. Using humour to deal with grief or bad news has been a British pasttime since god was a boy. (hoping that term won't offened anyone of course...)

Edited by NelsonM3 on Saturday 13th August 11:08

xRIEx

8,180 posts

177 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Freedom of speech and expression should never be censored. No one has an inalienable right to not be offended.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Just another display of histrionics by the professionally offended.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

192 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Voldemort said:
bhstewie said:
Guessing you're on about this little display of Pistonheads at its finest?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

It's pretty simply in my book, if you're in someone else's house you abide by their rules - free speech doesn't come into it.
The people who make 'funny' remarks show themselves for what they are: makes it easier to identify the aholes.
Are you kidding me? Absolutely nothing wrong with the joke at all. Any subject can be joked about, that is the point of a joke.

Sad bds complaining.

Looking at the comments, Ridgemont is especially dense. He said "I can't recall anyone finding child abuse funny" durrrr, the point of the joke is that the subject matter is particularly awful and extremely serious. That is where the comedy is found confused Do people not get this.

This oversensitivity is really starting to piss me off now.

AW111

9,674 posts

162 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Mr2Mike said:
Just another display of histrionics by the professionally offended.
What is this "professionally offended" crap?
I don't think anyone is being paid to be offended on here - maybe they just find some peoples words offensive?

"professionally offended" seems to be this year's PH insult of choice of posters with dubious taste.

Disastrous

10,208 posts

246 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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I thought the 'bricking it' gag was funny.

I do wish people were able to divorce humour from the reality of the subject. It's pretty standard that in for example a co egg club, nothing is off limits and a joke about X, y or z doesn't mean for a second that the comic agrees with the view he's putting forward.

Child abuse = appalling

Jokes about child abuse = potentially hilarious if a good gag


vetrof

3,013 posts

202 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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AW111 said:
What is this "professionally offended" crap?
I don't think anyone is being paid to be offended on here - maybe they just find some peoples words offensive?

"professionally offended" seems to be this year's PH insult of choice of posters with dubious taste.
Recreationally offended is probably a better phrase. No subject should be off-limits for humour. Otherwise a line has to be drawn somewhere. That is where the real problems arise, where is the line & who decides where it is?

Choose to be offended if you like, but don't assume everyone else should be too.




Edited by vetrof on Saturday 13th August 14:15

Monkeylegend

29,138 posts

260 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Come on guys, we need to be building bridges.


Edited by Monkeylegend on Saturday 13th August 15:17

T5XARV

600 posts

163 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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Disastrous said:
I thought the 'bricking it' gag was funny.

I do wish people were able to divorce humour from the reality of the subject. It's pretty standard that in for example a co egg club, nothing is off limits and a joke about X, y or z doesn't mean for a second that the comic agrees with the view he's putting forward.

Child abuse = appalling

Jokes about child abuse = potentially hilarious if a good gag
Are you cool with jokes about any subject if sufficiently funny then ?

AW111

9,674 posts

162 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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vetrof said:
AW111 said:
What is this "professionally offended" crap?
I don't think anyone is being paid to be offended on here - maybe they just find some peoples words offensive?

"professionally offended" seems to be this year's PH insult of choice of posters with dubious taste.
Recreationally offended is probably a better phrase. No subject should be off-limits for humour. Otherwise a line has to be drawn somewhere. That is where the real problems arise, where is the line & who decides where it is?

Choose to be offended if you like, but don't assume everyone else should be too.




Edited by vetrof on Saturday 13th August 14:15
Actually, I wasn't offended by the jokes in the Legoland thread, I am just sick of the "professionally offended" line being trotted out again and again.

hairyben

8,516 posts

212 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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StottyEvo said:
Voldemort said:
bhstewie said:
Guessing you're on about this little display of Pistonheads at its finest?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

It's pretty simply in my book, if you're in someone else's house you abide by their rules - free speech doesn't come into it.
The people who make 'funny' remarks show themselves for what they are: makes it easier to identify the aholes.
Are you kidding me? Absolutely nothing wrong with the joke at all. Any subject can be joked about, that is the point of a joke.

Sad bds complaining.

Looking at the comments, Ridgemont is especially dense. He said "I can't recall anyone finding child abuse funny" durrrr, the point of the joke is that the subject matter is particularly awful and extremely serious. That is where the comedy is found confused Do people not get this.

This oversensitivity is really starting to piss me off now.
People deal with tradgedy with humour, but its all about context, being able to tell the teller of the joke, by his inflections, tone, or your knowledge of him etc doesn't really find child abuse hilarious. The internet and social media lacks most of that humanity and few people have the skill to convey such in writing, so there has to be a few over-simplifying rules. A serious thread about child abuse in NPE is not the right place to chirp in with a funny really. Perhaps people in the joke thread would be more receptive.

You probably need to be less sensitive about having to respect ground rules;)

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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AW111 said:
Actually, I wasn't offended by the jokes in the Legoland thread, I am just sick of the "professionally offended" line being trotted out again and again.
I'm sick of hand wringing pricks constantly whinging about being offended, so we both have our crosses to bear.

Disastrous

10,208 posts

246 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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T5XARV said:
Disastrous said:
I thought the 'bricking it' gag was funny.

I do wish people were able to divorce humour from the reality of the subject. It's pretty standard that in for example a co egg club, nothing is off limits and a joke about X, y or z doesn't mean for a second that the comic agrees with the view he's putting forward.

Child abuse = appalling

Jokes about child abuse = potentially hilarious if a good gag
Are you cool with jokes about any subject if sufficiently funny then ?
Yes.

spookly

4,386 posts

124 months

Saturday 13th August 2016
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You have to choose to be offended. I choose not to be.
I don't find anything said in humour offensive. Humour is one of the ways in which people deal with things, even unimaginable horrors. I don't think anything should be off the menu as a topic of humour.

If you feel the need for a safe space then maybe reconsider whether interacting on the internet is for you.