[ANSWERED] We want Puma back aka Dave Baker and his friends.
[ANSWERED] We want Puma back aka Dave Baker and his friends.
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Boosted LS1

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21,200 posts

289 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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He was banned for saying something quite funny to most of us but one mod took exception. He's a longstanding member, very valuable and helpful in the techie forums.

Al, can you review this?

Little Pete

1,911 posts

123 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Agreed. He, along with a few others, was a major factor in my deciding to become a member and I'm sure many other members and readers have benefited from his advice. An extemely knowlegeable -if somewhat sardonic- contributor. Can the Mods please review this?

TheExcession

11,669 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Me too.

A major asset to E&D forum.

(Please HM don't let us lose another 'cyberface' from this site).

227bhp

10,203 posts

157 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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I've been chatting to someone else about this and i'd like to make a suggestion if I may: We create two sections: Engine advanced and Engine general (or something similar).

The problem is we have DIYers and Pros, the Pros can sometimes be offended by the actions of the DIYers and vice-versa, If we could separate the two then it may be a bit more harmonious.
The only problem I can see is having a Mod with enough technical knowledge to be able to differentiate between the two as it could prove to be a difficult line to draw....

James Drake

2,670 posts

146 months

PH TEAM

Thursday 1st September 2016
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I've given the mods a heads up on this, so one should be along shortly to answer.

JD

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Didn't realise he'd been banned, that's really not good. He gave me some very good advice (albeit in his usual, slightly abrasive style biggrin) on several occasions during my engine build.
People should be less delicate IMO.

TheExcession

11,669 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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What's more frustrating is that if anyone read the original thread then I bet more than half of them were thinking exactly what Puma wrote.

I certainly was.

I don't believe yet another forum is required or would even benefit.

Perhaps PH Posting Rule No. 1 should be:
"You are expected to converse in at least GCSE level English. Txt spk wont be tolr8ted. Poor grammar will almost always be rewarded with insinuations about you're [sic] intelligence."

That should fix it.

He'll be a massive loss to PH if he's gone for good.

Pupp

12,939 posts

301 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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If he's let back in; I'm going! whistle

wink

227bhp

10,203 posts

157 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Pupp said:
If he's let back in; I'm going! whistle

wink
You might want to clarify what you mean there, whether serious or sarcasm, because that and your other post are meaningless to me and no doubt many others.

Boosted LS1

Original Poster:

21,200 posts

289 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Pupps making a joke :-)

phumy

5,827 posts

266 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Bring back Puma, he is missed

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

246 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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TheExcession said:
What's more frustrating is that if anyone read the original thread then I bet more than half of them were thinking exactly what Puma wrote.
yes

stinkspanner

703 posts

210 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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That's disappointing, he truly is a font of knowledge. I didn't see the thread that sparked this, but I can probably imagine how it went. It's a shame that people like him that have a bit of spark get banned for (presumably) upsetting some fanny.
PH becomes a poorer, blander place much like everything else in the sanitised world we live in these days.
PH=beige

Number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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I think his contributions are sorely missed, and PH is worse place without him. Whether he wants to come back after the way he's been treated is an entirely different thing.

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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In the thread linked from the oil seal one - which is now closed - and which is claimed to be the one which is the cause of the ban would I be right in thinking that a post from the OP of that thread has been deleted?
Appears to be the case as it goes from pr commenting on the weird first post to pr's 'Is it cos I is black' post with nothing in between & doesn't tally with the OP's post count. Without whatever may have been deleted the context of that reply is lost & could be entirely misconstrued as a a racist comment.
If the post that produced that response was deleted by the OP then - as with many threads that have had similar deletions on this & other forums - then the entire thread becomes unintelligible & I have concerns about the imposition of bans on posters.
Removing such a thread in its entirety may be a better course of action.

james7

594 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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What was he banned for?
Surely for not making the light hearted comment mentioned earlier?

He has helped out lots of members and is the sort of person who should be encouraged and thanked for posting, not banned.
Not sure if whoever banned him knows but he does know his st. He has forgotten more about engines than a lot of people will ever know and is happy to share. The better type of forum member surely?
Yet the mods are more than happy to let the idiots who just like to argue and belittle people keep posting pointless replies just to annoy others.
What kind of moderation goes on here? Its a crock of st and needs sorting out quickly!

227bhp

10,203 posts

157 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Number 7 said:
I think his contributions are sorely missed, and PH is worse place without him. Whether he wants to come back after the way he's been treated is an entirely different thing.
He's never been away, so I don't know what exactly you've been missing.

227bhp

10,203 posts

157 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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james7 said:
What was he banned for?
Surely for not making the light hearted comment mentioned earlier?

He has helped out lots of members and is the sort of person who should be encouraged and thanked for posting, not banned.
Not sure if whoever banned him knows but he does know his st. He has forgotten more about engines than a lot of people will ever know and is happy to share. The better type of forum member surely?
Yet the mods are more than happy to let the idiots who just like to argue and belittle people keep posting pointless replies just to annoy others.
What kind of moderation goes on here? Its a crock of st and needs sorting out quickly!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1589010&r=33360292&hm=75913&mid=75913#33360292

james7

594 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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227bhp said:
Is that it? A light hearted ali g phrase which has appeared on tv etc?
https://youtu.be/QaZbrqE1CF4 tv and youtube have aired it and not had a problem with it.



If it was a problem why has it not been deleted i wonder?

Pupp

12,939 posts

301 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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227bhp said:
Pupp said:
If he's let back in; I'm going! whistle

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You might want to clarify what you mean there, whether serious or sarcasm, because that and your other post are meaningless to me and no doubt many others.
Meaningless? Really?

This is what I said as a result of learning of the ban (in the thread you contributed to, including after this post so you presumably were aware of the context):

pupp said:
Yep one less reason to look in - grumpy and opinionated but knowledgeable and generous in sharing that knowledge (if ill-suffering of fools). Entertaining, irritating, and educative by turns; always a poster to watch out for.

Good work HM; one step closer to the anodyne mediocrity that is clearly craved - perhaps you can pop another advert in the vacant bandwidth? rolleyes
I think it's perfectly clear what I was getting at but can spell it out in even simpler terms if needs be; might use invective a little stronger than 'dheads' 'though


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