Some advice to all these people moaning about ads.
Some advice to all these people moaning about ads.
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Kermit power

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29,622 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Why don't you just browse PH with Firefox - free - and install the Ad Blocker Plus add on - free.

The result? PH - Ad Free! biggrin

It is quite frankly superb. No annoying ads, no pop ups, and very, very quick page loading.

Hopefully this won't count as advertising on PH - which would be ironic - as it's all free anyway! laugh

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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does that solve the issues of the page hanging half loaded at the ad? because thats the only reason they annoy me.

Davi

17,153 posts

249 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Hooli said:
does that solve the issues of the page hanging half loaded at the ad? because thats the only reason they annoy me.
It does. It doesn't stop the generally slow servers but everything else is sorted.

Kermit power

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29,622 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Hooli said:
does that solve the issues of the page hanging half loaded at the ad? because thats the only reason they annoy me.
yes You just see a place holder where the ad would've been, with the word Advertisement in it. The ad doesn't even start loading.

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Wonder if someone at PH knows - does the ad that gets blocked get counted towards the amount that is purchased?

Kermit power

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29,622 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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tinman0 said:
Wonder if someone at PH knows - does the ad that gets blocked get counted towards the amount that is purchased?
Good question.

If they get paid on click throughs, then they're getting nothing. If they're purely paid on page counts, then it would, I assume, require my machine to send back some sort of acknowledgement to say that the ad had been viewed or not?

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Kermit power said:
Hooli said:
does that solve the issues of the page hanging half loaded at the ad? because thats the only reason they annoy me.
yes You just see a place holder where the ad would've been, with the word Advertisement in it. The ad doesn't even start loading.
yes thats exactly how i suffer, looks like i'll be getting an ad-blocker then. slow servers i can deal with, the pages not loading for something i dont want to see anyway drives me barmy.

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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Hooli said:
Kermit power said:
Hooli said:
does that solve the issues of the page hanging half loaded at the ad? because thats the only reason they annoy me.
yes You just see a place holder where the ad would've been, with the word Advertisement in it. The ad doesn't even start loading.
yes thats exactly how i suffer, looks like i'll be getting an ad-blocker then. slow servers i can deal with, the pages not loading for something i dont want to see anyway drives me barmy.
I can understand people blocking pop ups because they are the most annoying thing ever, but why be so negative towards the advertisers? PH doesn't cost nothing to run. Why not just let the ad load? There have been occasions where the ad server that injects code into PH has slowed the pages down, but by and large its not really a problem.

Kermit power

Original Poster:

29,622 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
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tinman0 said:
Hooli said:
Kermit power said:
Hooli said:
does that solve the issues of the page hanging half loaded at the ad? because thats the only reason they annoy me.
yes You just see a place holder where the ad would've been, with the word Advertisement in it. The ad doesn't even start loading.
yes thats exactly how i suffer, looks like i'll be getting an ad-blocker then. slow servers i can deal with, the pages not loading for something i dont want to see anyway drives me barmy.
I can understand people blocking pop ups because they are the most annoying thing ever, but why be so negative towards the advertisers? PH doesn't cost nothing to run. Why not just let the ad load? There have been occasions where the ad server that injects code into PH has slowed the pages down, but by and large its not really a problem.
The ad blocker stops all sorts of ads all over the place, including pop ups. You don't tell it to nuke the ads on specific sites, it just does whatever it does in the background.

I wasn't trying to specifically be negative towards PH advertisers, but you do frequently see people getting frustrated on here with the time it takes for pages to load, and I've got absolutely no problem with it at all. The only difference I can think of is that ad blocker, hence the advice.

ETA - This is a good example - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Sure, when the hamsters have a fit, I'm affected just like everyone, but I've never had a problem with the speed of the site, and if that is making people get frustrated to the point of going elsewhere, it's going to have exactly the same impact on advertisers as just blocking the ads in the first place.

Edited by Kermit power on Tuesday 4th March 23:32

tinman0

18,231 posts

269 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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From what I saw, and apologises if I'm wrong, the ad code was injected into the html as you download a page was the reason for the half downloaded page, so an ad blocker will make no difference whatsoever in displaying the page as its still waiting for the code from the server in the first place. Thats why (from what I could see) the page download stopped just where the ad was about to be placed, hence thinking a bit of code was being injected in.

I can understand popups being unwelcome but just block pop ups in your browser.

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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tinman0 said:
Hooli said:
Kermit power said:
Hooli said:
does that solve the issues of the page hanging half loaded at the ad? because thats the only reason they annoy me.
yes You just see a place holder where the ad would've been, with the word Advertisement in it. The ad doesn't even start loading.
yes thats exactly how i suffer, looks like i'll be getting an ad-blocker then. slow servers i can deal with, the pages not loading for something i dont want to see anyway drives me barmy.
I can understand people blocking pop ups because they are the most annoying thing ever, but why be so negative towards the advertisers? PH doesn't cost nothing to run. Why not just let the ad load? There have been occasions where the ad server that injects code into PH has slowed the pages down, but by and large its not really a problem.
because if i understood what i was told there correctly an ad-blocker would stop the pages freezing halfloaded waiting for the ads. yes the hamsters play up at times but the vast majority of times i end up going 'sod it, next forum' is when PH wont load any pages past the advert. it gets there & hangs for minutes which is rather fustrating when you want to read the bottom half of the page.

Davi

17,153 posts

249 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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tinman0 said:
From what I saw, and apologises if I'm wrong, the ad code was injected into the html as you download a page was the reason for the half downloaded page, so an ad blocker will make no difference whatsoever in displaying the page as its still waiting for the code from the server in the first place. Thats why (from what I could see) the page download stopped just where the ad was about to be placed, hence thinking a bit of code was being injected in.

I can understand popups being unwelcome but just block pop ups in your browser.
I'm not that clued up on the how's or why's, but the blocker definitely prevents the hangs - I don't think it's the loading code from the server, I think it's the bit that comes after that that hangs the page.

Scraggles

7,619 posts

253 months

Wednesday 5th March 2008
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thing is that the advertisers also run other adverts on other sites and without going into too many details as have already given them... get not a lot of problems with adverts