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ciderminx

Original Poster:

809 posts

233 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Are there any straight cars on there? We've been looked at cars to buy for a company car (that we can also use as everyday cars). Replied to 3 different cars, a X5, a Touareg and a M3. They all came back with the same generic email.
Something along the lines of...yes the car is exactly as described but i'm out of the country at the minute, couldn't afford the import duty etc but if you'd like to send me £7K then i'll get the car delivered...honest!

Grrrrrr!

Edited by ciderminx on Monday 18th August 17:56

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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I do think it could do wit some stricter rules for putting them up. As I;ve seen this as well.

Shame really.

wiz 1

2,474 posts

243 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Think advertising should be limited to members and some sort of Barry filter might help, though they do provide us with a laugh every now and then.

Simpo Two

92,707 posts

294 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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elster said:
I do think it could do wit some stricter rules for putting them up. As I;ve seen this as well.
Agreed. Maybe 100 posts for starters? We certainly don't want scammers lurking in PH.

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Simpo Two said:
elster said:
I do think it could do wit some stricter rules for putting them up. As I;ve seen this as well.
Agreed. Maybe 100 posts for starters? We certainly don't want scammers lurking in PH.
Well no as I didn' think it was just for PH members.

Just a different way to approve it. I'm not smart enough or geeky enough to know about internet approvals.

Simpo Two

92,707 posts

294 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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elster said:
Well no as I didn' think it was just for PH members.
There are no 'members'; it's not a club, but a forum.

elster said:
Just a different way to approve it. I'm not smart enough or geeky enough to know about internet approvals.
What can you do? Ask them 'Are you honest?'

PHers generally have a self-policing code of conduct. I swapped lenses worth hundreds of pounds by post - I posted him mine, he posted me his. No problem, but you wouldn't do it on eBay.

OK, perhaps it's a brotherhood!

So some way of ensuring advertisers are within this way of thinking is needed - forum posts are a good pointer. Or maybe if they aren't posters then they should pay to advertise, or maybe the adverts should be flagged in some way, eg: 'Not PHer, may be dodgy!

elster

17,517 posts

239 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Simpo Two said:
elster said:
Well no as I didn' think it was just for PH members.
There are no 'members'; it's not a club, but a forum.

elster said:
Just a different way to approve it. I'm not smart enough or geeky enough to know about internet approvals.
What can you do? Ask them 'Are you honest?'

PHers generally have a self-policing code of conduct. I swapped lenses worth hundreds of pounds by post - I posted him mine, he posted me his. No problem, but you wouldn't do it on eBay.

OK, perhaps it's a brotherhood!

So some way of ensuring advertisers are within this way of thinking is needed - forum posts are a good pointer. Or maybe if they aren't posters then they should pay to advertise, or maybe the adverts should be flagged in some way, eg: 'Not PHer, may be dodgy!
I think a PH user for sale and non user ID would work, those non PH users will have to provide a way to be traceable.

shirt

25,385 posts

230 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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i agree the vetting process could be stricter, but if i were to buy a car through PH classifieds - particularly something rare or expensive to run/fix - i'd post in the relevant forum on here first to see if anyone knew the car and its history.

the guys who post regularly in the M power & barge bargain threads [L100NY, ASBO etc.] are good at spotting fakes, scams and dodgy motors a mile off, as are the guys on the marque specific threads. if anything about an ad looks suspicious, you can be sure a seasoned PHer can offer advice.

Lois22

14,706 posts

281 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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I've just bought a car through the classifieds from a lovely couple. I'd previously had some rather offensive emails off another seller though when I found out about the cars history through an HPi check.

Selling Fifi on there now, so buy her wink

Chilli

17,320 posts

265 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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Yeah, the Mimi I put up there is a quality motor.

ciderminx

Original Poster:

809 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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furious AND ANOTHER!!!!

Goodbye PH classifieds.....i like you, but i'm not prepared to have to sift through a load of scams to get to the genuine cars.

Landlord

12,689 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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ciderminx said:
furious AND ANOTHER!!!!

Goodbye PH classifieds.....i like you, but i'm not prepared to have to sift through a load of scams to get to the genuine cars.
What sort of an X5 are you looking for? whistle

SleeperCell

5,591 posts

271 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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ciderminx said:
furious AND ANOTHER!!!!

Goodbye PH classifieds.....i like you, but i'm not prepared to have to sift through a load of scams to get to the genuine cars.
Where else are you going to look? Autotrader? eBay? They have just as many problems with scammers and time wasters.

ciderminx

Original Poster:

809 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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One that isn't in 'Portugal' would be a start!

ciderminx

Original Poster:

809 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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SleeperCell said:
Where else are you going to look? Autotrader? eBay? They have just as many problems with scammers and time wasters.
I don't think i'd buy one off ebay (unless it was close enough to view first) and i've never had any problem with Autotrader, i must be one of the lucky ones.

308mate

13,758 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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The fact that you managed to find to 3 might suggest you need to think about how and what you look for. Scam ads are in every place where you can advertise.

I it looks too good to be true. It probably is.

funkyboogalooo

1,844 posts

297 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Its not just sellers. I received the below email today about my 928 I have for sale on here

Good Day ,Am engineer Philp Holmes, This is a purchase enquiry in response to your advertisment for sale.I admire it so much I want to know more about
it; I am however okay
with its detailed features and descriptions but prior to payment proceedings
I'd like to know if there has been any changes to it's advertised conditions
and then do let me know the following : YOUR FINAL ASKING PRICE ?
Looking forward to your earliest and convenient pertinent response with all of
the requested information i.e price e.t.c..........
Yours faithfully.



My Phone No: nil


97octane

2,203 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Pity, really. I sold a car successfully, one PHer to another, through the classifieds here. Had success on PH where Autotrader and others had failed.
If the scammers could be filtered off, it would be a great.

funkyboogalooo

1,844 posts

297 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Its not just sellers. I received the below email today about my 928 I have for sale on here

Good Day ,Am engineer Philp Holmes, This is a purchase enquiry in response to your advertisment for sale.I admire it so much I want to know more about
it; I am however okay
with its detailed features and descriptions but prior to payment proceedings
I'd like to know if there has been any changes to it's advertised conditions
and then do let me know the following : YOUR FINAL ASKING PRICE ?
Looking forward to your earliest and convenient pertinent response with all of
the requested information i.e price e.t.c..........
Yours faithfully.



My Phone No: nil


shirt

25,385 posts

230 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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97octane said:
If the scammers could be filtered off, it would be a great.
what do we do if we suspect a scam ad then? if the mods/webmasters can be made aware then at least they can pull all other ads from that IP address [i'm guessing there will be multiple ads per scammer]. need something akin to the 'report abuse' button on the forums.