Why does the search function never work at night?
Why does the search function never work at night?
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XJSJohn

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16,151 posts

248 months

Sunday 12th October 2008
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Like now ... always the way, just spins its wheels and either locks up or tells me to "naff off" (or words to that effect)

RacingPete

9,197 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th October 2008
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The search uses a different database to the main forum and this gets updated every early morning. This should mean the search results switch to a temp system when the backup is happening but this looks like it isn't working.

We are going to look at the whole forum search as a whole very shortly as it needs a major rethink.

XJSJohn

Original Poster:

16,151 posts

248 months

Sunday 12th October 2008
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Makes sense, fyi its generally fubared from about 2am to 5am UK time.

Has been for probably the last 6 + months.

Just started to irritate me this morning biggrin

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Never mind 'at night', when is the search function going to be working properly again at all?

It hasn't captured thread details for at least two weeks - you won't get any returns for October and I'm not sure at what point in September it stopped.

In some sections, like P&P, it's an essential too, as news hits items hit it so fast you have to check for previous posts.

miniman

30,019 posts

291 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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V8mate said:
In some sections, like P&P, it's an essential too, as news hits items hit it so fast you have to check for previous posts.
As it stands now, it will never work for P&P because the index is at best 24-hours out of date so even when working properly it can't prevent reposts of big news stories etc.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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miniman said:
V8mate said:
In some sections, like P&P, it's an essential too, as news hits items hit it so fast you have to check for previous posts.
As it stands now, it will never work for P&P because the index is at best 24-hours out of date so even when working properly it can't prevent reposts of big news stories etc.
OK. But it still hasn't captured the P&P this month!


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In fact, I just tried 'smxxxies' in the search function. Nothing found. So it isn't doing this section either. Seems likely it isn't capturing any part of the site, I'd say.

Edited by V8mate on Tuesday 14th October 08:37

jamieboy

5,929 posts

258 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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See here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

At various points it's been due to be fixed sometime either "next week", "tomorrow", "soon" or "shortly". A fortnight ago it was to be fixed "as soon as possible".

Edited by jamieboy on Tuesday 14th October 08:50

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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jamieboy said:
See here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

At various points it's been due to be fixed sometime either "next week", "tomorrow", "soon" or "shortly". A fortnight ago it was to be fixed "as soon as possible".
Ah - thanks Jamie

Pigeon

18,535 posts

275 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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While we're about fixing the search function can it be extended to include the titles of threads? It's a bugger when you can remember the title of a thread but not a key phrase out of the body of it. Simply counting the title text as part of the body text, instead of considering it as a separate, ignored entity, would do the trick.

If it's already supposed to include the titles of threads, it doesn't work. For example, searching for why does the search function never work at night produces one thread on psycho exes and one on the Canon EOS 50D, and that's it.

V8mate

45,899 posts

218 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Pigeon said:
While we're about fixing the search function can it be extended to include the titles of threads? It's a bugger when you can remember the title of a thread but not a key phrase out of the body of it. Simply counting the title text as part of the body text, instead of considering it as a separate, ignored entity, would do the trick.

If it's already supposed to include the titles of threads, it doesn't work. For example, searching for why does the search function never work at night produces one thread on psycho exes and one on the Canon EOS 50D, and that's it.
I think you can't find contemporary threads because it hasn't been picking them up for a few weeks (as detailed above)

XJSJohn

Original Poster:

16,151 posts

248 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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suddenly i am realy glad that my usual trolling of PH stops about now when its close to 11pm and i am mildly pissed ... it realy does all sound far too complicated!

RacingPete

9,197 posts

233 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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I have put some more monitoring on the search system to see what is going on with it and why it wont put the latest information into the search data. So hopefully I will be able to get more of a fix of the problem tomorrow morning.

In the meantime I am working on an alternative solution so that the search will only be an hour behind in a day and remove the need for backups nightly.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

275 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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V8mate said:
Pigeon said:
While we're about fixing the search function can it be extended to include the titles of threads? It's a bugger when you can remember the title of a thread but not a key phrase out of the body of it. Simply counting the title text as part of the body text, instead of considering it as a separate, ignored entity, would do the trick.

If it's already supposed to include the titles of threads, it doesn't work. For example, searching for why does the search function never work at night produces one thread on psycho exes and one on the Canon EOS 50D, and that's it.
I think you can't find contemporary threads because it hasn't been picking them up for a few weeks (as detailed above)
No, it's never worked on thread titles.