New P&P rule request
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ali_kat

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32,152 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Put this in my report of it, but

Please can you issue some sort of 'punishment' to those idiots that decide to be 'clever' and use formatting to get offensive words through the filters?


funk odyssey

1,983 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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do we need so many filtered words?

ali_kat

Original Poster:

32,152 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Unless you want to lose access to PH at work...

yes

FourWheelDrift

92,257 posts

313 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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funk odyssey said:
do we need so many filtered words?
If people have the intelligence to post without swearing then no, but since they can't we have to and the one Ali is referring to was the use of the C word. This kind of posting will get PH popping up on web nanny software and IT people flagging it up as a banned site.

funk odyssey

1,983 posts

258 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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fair point

Furyous

25,696 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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How about closing the P&P for a 6 week trial period ?

Its just FULL of utter toss and newbies now anyway.

Used to guarantee a good laugh, now its utter sewage tbh.

FunkyNige

9,816 posts

304 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Furyous said:
How about closing the P&P for a 6 week trial period ?

Its just FULL of utter toss and newbies now anyway.

Used to guarantee a good laugh, now its utter sewage tbh.
Handily, in My Info -> Preferences you can hide selected forums (fora?), not showing P&P makes What's New a lot less cluttered.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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If you aren't supposed to be on it at work then don't go on it at work - it isn't a difficult concept.

ali_kat

Original Poster:

32,152 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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m12_nathan said:
If you aren't supposed to be on it at work then don't go on it at work - it isn't a difficult concept.
Lunch?

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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No thanks, just had my dinner

FourWheelDrift

92,257 posts

313 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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m12_nathan said:
If you aren't supposed to be on it at work then don't go on it at work - it isn't a difficult concept.
It isn't a "not supposed to be online at work" issue. People are allowed to surf the web at lunchtime at many places of work. However if morons were allowed to post with no swear filter or post porn links or anything else like that then the web nanny filters will cut in and stop people being able to connect even if they are allowed to surf the web in their own time.

Wacky Racer

41,276 posts

276 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Furyous said:
How about closing the P&P for a 6 week trial period ?

Its just FULL of utter toss and newbies now anyway.

Used to guarantee a good laugh, now its utter sewage tbh.
nono

Whilst I agree there is SOME crap in the p&p 80% of it is OK, why punish the majority because of a few idiots....

If I need to know how to fix my washing machine or ask investment advice p&p is invaluable..

A good spell in the sin bin should sort 'em out......

Furyous

25,696 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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WR, Im inclined to agree with you, however, the P&P is the main cause reason for the influx of.............of............"new" members shall we say ?

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

246 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Furyous said:
WR, Im inclined to agree with you, however, the P&P is the main cause reason for the influx of.............of............"new" members shall we say ?
It's worth remembering that new users can't post in P&P until they've been a member for a couple of weeks.

Furyous

25,696 posts

250 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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10 Pence Short said:
Furyous said:
WR, Im inclined to agree with you, however, the P&P is the main cause reason for the influx of.............of............"new" members shall we say ?
It's worth remembering that new users can't post in P&P until they've been a member for a couple of weeks.
I know, but when they do, its still mostly drivel.

Don

28,378 posts

313 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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To be honest I'm not so worried if posters find ways of fooling the swear filter. If *they* have fooled the swear filter then it's unlikely to be being picked up by any traffic filters...so it's only that which is on the screen.

I don't feel the need to do it myself but I am less worried about it perhaps.

Clearly this is different to people deliberately doing something like this (quote post to see what I mean).


RUDE


Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Don said:
To be honest I'm not so worried if posters find ways of fooling the swear filter. If *they* have fooled the swear filter then it's unlikely to be being picked up by any traffic filters...so it's only that which is on the screen.

I don't feel the need to do it myself but I am less worried about it perhaps.

Clearly this is different to people deliberately doing something like this (quote post to see what I mean).


RUDE
I wouldn't want to bank on that, our swearfilter is a lot less advanced than most 'net nanny' software.

The swear filter is there for several good reasons, including staying child friendly and maintaining common decency as well as the reasons above, so I see no reason why we shouldn't start handing out punishments for people who intentionally evade it.

Strangely Brown

15,660 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Mr Will said:
The swear filter is there for several good reasons, including staying child friendly and maintaining common decency as well as the reasons above, so I see no reason why we shouldn't start handing out punishments for people who intentionally evade it.
If you're going to start handing out punishments then you'd better get the swear filter to stop filtering sensible words first.

I know the name of the place is probably swearing anyway but c'mon...

Shorpe?

ali_kat

Original Poster:

32,152 posts

250 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Strangely Brown said:
Mr Will said:
The swear filter is there for several good reasons, including staying child friendly and maintaining common decency as well as the reasons above, so I see no reason why we shouldn't start handing out punishments for people who intentionally evade it.
If you're going to start handing out punishments then you'd better get the swear filter to stop filtering sensible words first.

I know the name of the place is probably swearing anyway but c'mon...

Shorpe?
The problem is, that the 'oiks' will quickly work out the way round used for Shorpe to get through the filter, and use that to dodge the filter, as they are now.

Hence the suggestion of punishments - they seem intent on spoiling PH for everyone, so lets teach them that it won't be tolerated.

Strangely Brown

15,660 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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ali_kat said:
The problem is, that the 'oiks' will quickly work out the way round used for Shorpe to get through the filter, and use that to dodge the filter, as they are now.

Hence the suggestion of punishments - they seem intent on spoiling PH for everyone, so lets teach them that it won't be tolerated.
My point was that if you are going to punish people for circumventing the filter then you had better make sure that the filter doesn't NEED to be circumvented in the first place. Words that are incorrectly filtered need to be whitelisted so that the swear filter doesn't just look like a complete arse.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Thursday 29th January 12:33