Inconsistencies with "censored" icon.
Inconsistencies with "censored" icon.
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root 666

Original Poster:

316 posts

214 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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In a recent (sensibly) closed topic, it became apparent that not only is the icon extremely selective in its obscuring of "offensive" racial terminology, in the case of the word (nigger) it obscures the entire word (unless in quotation marks or parenthesis).

The word " ste ", consisting of five letters, will only have the h and i obscured.
Similarly the word wker will only excercise the icon over the a, n and k.

As the word " wker " contains the same number of letters as the word " " why are they treated differently.

Paki, Chinky, Pikey and the various other dubious terms pointed out by Chris w666, don't seem to trouble the icon (or possibly more accurately, the programmer) at all.

Sadly, in the light of inferences made about others, I wish to state that my enquiry has no hidden agenda and stems solely from interest.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Don't forget Shorpe...

On second thoughts...

root 666

Original Poster:

316 posts

214 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Blimey!

I put it in brackets plus quotes and it still did it.

I really do hope that no churlish misanthrope suggests that the programmer may have personal reasons for his thorough obliteration of n****r and c**t.

Probably worrying unecessarily what with it being on Website Feedback.

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
Don't forget Shorpe...

On second thoughts...
I mentioned Shorpe (quite legitimately) in a thread last week, but as I'm getting fed up with it getting censored I typed Sbksthorpe instead of Shorpe assuming the filter would treat bks the same as but it ended up with my post looking silly.

Something must be done!!!!

smile

root 666

Original Poster:

316 posts

214 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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S/c/u/n/t/h/o/r/p/e

EUREKA!!!

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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root 666 said:
S/c/u/n/t/h/o/r/p/e

EUREKA!!!
Big fking sthole more like.

Doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed to use its own name, though.

smile

Poledriver

29,583 posts

223 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Scunthorpe

HTH

Xenocide

4,286 posts

237 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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root 666 said:
In a recent (sensibly) closed topic, it became apparent that not only is the icon extremely selective in its obscuring of "offensive" racial terminology, in the case of the word (nigger) it obscures the entire word (unless in quotation marks or parenthesis).

The word " ste ", consisting of five letters, will only have the h and i obscured.
Similarly the word wker will only excercise the icon over the a, n and k.

As the word " wker " contains the same number of letters as the word " " why are they treated differently.

Paki, Chinky, Pikey and the various other dubious terms pointed out by Chris w666, don't seem to trouble the icon (or possibly more accurately, the programmer) at all.

Sadly, in the light of inferences made about others, I wish to state that my enquiry has no hidden agenda and stems solely from interest.
shi/te is shi/t with an e on the end so it'll censor shi/t and put an e on the end. Same with wker.

with , it's the whole word that's bad with no extra bits, for example s will be the same with an s on the end (if i've got it right in my head).

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Xenocide said:
root 666 said:
In a recent (sensibly) closed topic, it became apparent that not only is the icon extremely selective in its obscuring of "offensive" racial terminology, in the case of the word (nigger) it obscures the entire word (unless in quotation marks or parenthesis).

The word " ste ", consisting of five letters, will only have the h and i obscured.
Similarly the word wker will only excercise the icon over the a, n and k.

As the word " wker " contains the same number of letters as the word " " why are they treated differently.

Paki, Chinky, Pikey and the various other dubious terms pointed out by Chris w666, don't seem to trouble the icon (or possibly more accurately, the programmer) at all.

Sadly, in the light of inferences made about others, I wish to state that my enquiry has no hidden agenda and stems solely from interest.
shi/te is shi/t with an e on the end so it'll censor shi/t and put an e on the end. Same with wker.

with , it's the whole word that's bad with no extra bits, for example s will be the same with an s on the end (if i've got it right in my head).
So what is an olloc?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Poledriver said:
Scunthorpe

HTH
SCUNTHORPE...

Anything you can do, I can do bigger....tongue out

Red Kite

3,358 posts

220 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
Poledriver said:
Scunthorpe

HTH
SCUNTHORPE...

Anything you can do, I can do bigger....tongue out
sssshhh. There are ladies on here, with sensibilities

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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Red Kite said:
mybrainhurts said:
Poledriver said:
Scunthorpe

HTH
SCUNTHORPE...

Anything you can do, I can do bigger....tongue out
sssshhh. There are ladies on here, with sensibilities
Doesn't matter, they're from Rotherham...

root 666

Original Poster:

316 posts

214 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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I'm still puzzled by what I interpret as a duality of sensitivity, if not standards.

While very few of the words used in illustration form a significant part of my vocabulary (most days at least), I feel that they should be treated with equal concern/indifference.

If I write " fk " it will be reasonably clear, despite the icon and regardless of context, what the word is.

Should I write " " or " " or perhaps " " followed by " " the words will be totally (rather than partially) obscured while remaining totally accessible via the "quote" icon.

As to Xenocide's contention that "the whole" of ("nigger") "is bad", I fail to see how this can be valid.
In its entirity yes ,but if the moderators have deemed that "n-icon-r" is too much for our tender sensibilities, would they mind having a quick chat about the unencumbered use of the term Paki.


Poledriver

29,583 posts

223 months

Friday 6th February 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
Poledriver said:
Scunthorpe

HTH
SCUNTHORPE...

Anything you can do, I can do bigger....tongue out
Oh yeah?

Edited by Poledriver on Friday 6th February 21:37

Ganglandboss

8,546 posts

232 months

Saturday 7th February 2009
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madbadger said:
mybrainhurts said:
Don't forget Shorpe...

On second thoughts...
I mentioned Shorpe (quite legitimately) in a thread last week, but as I'm getting fed up with it getting censored I typed Sbksthorpe instead of Shorpe assuming the filter would treat bks the same as but it ended up with my post looking silly.

Something must be done!!!!

smile
Shorpe is censored for a very good reason. Have you ever been?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th February 2009
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Ganglandboss said:
madbadger said:
mybrainhurts said:
Don't forget Shorpe...

On second thoughts...
I mentioned Shorpe (quite legitimately) in a thread last week, but as I'm getting fed up with it getting censored I typed Sbksthorpe instead of Shorpe assuming the filter would treat bks the same as but it ended up with my post looking silly.

Something must be done!!!!

smile
Shorpe is censored for a very good reason. Have you ever been?
Yes, but I managed to escape....

madbadger

11,752 posts

273 months

Saturday 7th February 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
Ganglandboss said:
madbadger said:
mybrainhurts said:
Don't forget Shorpe...

On second thoughts...
I mentioned Shorpe (quite legitimately) in a thread last week, but as I'm getting fed up with it getting censored I typed Sbksthorpe instead of Shorpe assuming the filter would treat bks the same as but it ended up with my post looking silly.

Something must be done!!!!

smile
Shorpe is censored for a very good reason. Have you ever been?
Yes, but I managed to escape....
:Yes: Me too.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

235 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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root 666 said:
I'm still puzzled by what I interpret as a duality of sensitivity, if not standards.

While very few of the words used in illustration form a significant part of my vocabulary (most days at least), I feel that they should be treated with equal concern/indifference.

If I write " fk " it will be reasonably clear, despite the icon and regardless of context, what the word is.

Should I write " " or " " or perhaps " " followed by " " the words will be totally (rather than partially) obscured while remaining totally accessible via the "quote" icon.

As to Xenocide's contention that "the whole" of ("nigger") "is bad", I fail to see how this can be valid.
In its entirity yes ,but if the moderators have deemed that "n-icon-r" is too much for our tender sensibilities, would they mind having a quick chat about the unencumbered use of the term Paki.
The swear filter censors words in two different ways, your 'average' swear-word will be censored with the first and last letters left showing. The most offensive words (c***, n***** and p***) are censored in their entirety. Only the swearword itself is censored so for example if you write 'wking' then you have the w-icon-k from the swearword, plus -ing on the end.

You have just highlighted an interesting bug though, and should both be censored, but to avoid censoring snigger and Pakistan (and others) they are only censored when they are written without any other characters next to them but it is causing them to become uncensored when surrounded by punctuation.

I'll add this to the list and get it sorted so that the filter is a little more reliable in future.

Vipers

33,498 posts

257 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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What I want to know is how fast do some topics get CLOSED, and/or moved, does someone monitor this site 24/7 or wot?

smile

root 666

Original Poster:

316 posts

214 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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Initially I posted this in P&P.
It was moved (with no further input) within 10 minutes.

Edited to add; Thankyou Mr Will.

Edited by root 666 on Monday 9th February 12:15