Where's the music forum gone?

[gingerpaul]

Hello. I was wondering where the music forum has gone. Is it now part of the new forum with TV and films?

[Big Al.]

Yep, a little bit of consolidation going on, in a effort to lessen the number of forums and make them a little more user friendly.

HTH

[uriel]

I've just noticed this.

What about music gear though? Lumping it in with TV and film suggests it's a forum for discussing music itself, not instruments, studio equipment etc which a fair chunk of the music forums posts used to be about.

I wouldn't think to make post asking for advice on choice of pickup for my Telecaster or chord fingering technique in the TV, Film & Music forum, the same way you wouldn't post a "Which HDMI cable?" thread in there (I understand we have a home cinema and equipment forum).

Edited by uriel on Thursday 9th April 11:27

[gingerpaul]

Looks like there'll be a lot more traffic in there then! It's a bit of a shame because some of the interesting stuff posted by creative types in there that might not get a lot of posts but are well worth a read will get lost amongst threads on The Apprentice, Lost and Big Brother. It used to be a nice quiet corner inhabited by people who could actually play instruments.

[gingerpaul]

I'm going to try to find the pictures of amps and pictures of guitars threads and give them a quick bump to see how long they last on the first page. Probably won't be more than a few hours unfortunately.

[va1o]

gingerpaul said:

Looks like there'll be a lot more traffic in there then!

Isn't that the whole point of merging them! Topics will get seen by a wider audidence so thus there will be more replies.

[gingerpaul]

va1o said:

gingerpaul said:

Looks like there'll be a lot more traffic in there then!

Isn't that the whole point of merging them! Topics will get seen by a wider audidence so thus there will be more replies.

It depends on what the aim of the forum is. A more technical forum like what used to be the music forum or the photography and video forum will naturally attract less posts than a forum for film and tv shows which is obviously open to much more discussion.

In fact I would argue that TV and film has as much in common with the old music forum as it does with thephotography and video forum. People were sharing their music there, asking for advice on kit and techniques and sharing their favourite music. On the photography forum people share their photos, ask for advice on kit and techniques and share their favourite photos.

Unfortunately all of the interesting creative and technical stuff will be lost before anyone gets a chance to read it. It just won't be worth starting topics in the first place.

Edited to add I bet only a handful of the mods actually visited it regularly so perhaps weren't aware that we weren't in there just talking about the latest Britney album. It is understandable as it was a little geeky in there. In the same way I bet not many visit photography and video eiter. This isn't a critism of the mods, just a possible expanation as to why this change had been made when it doesn't really make much sense.

Edited by gingerpaul on Thursday 9th April 11:59

[Famous Graham]

Maybe expand the Home Cinema forum to include any sort of electronic hardware - there is the crossover (arf) to amplifiers, processors and suchlike, after all.

[Puggit]

How about a stickied sub-forum for musical-making types within the larger music/tv forum. That way it's well defined, accessible by those nosying around, but also a snug corner?

[bigbadbikercats]

Famous Graham said:

Maybe expand the Home Cinema forum to include any sort of electronic hardware - there is the crossover (arf) to amplifiers, processors and suchlike, after all.

What about non-electronic stuff? I mean, if I'm looking for advice on choosing a new acoustic guitar, or (as I occasionally fool myself into believing I will one day) learning the piano then "Home Cinema" is not the obvious place to look for it is it?

Oy! Moderators!! Either give us back our old "Music" forum or give us a nice shiny new "Musicians" one!!!

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JG

[gingerpaul]

Puggit said:

How about a stickied sub-forum for musical-making types within the larger music/tv forum. That way it's well defined, accessible by those nosying around, but also a snug corner?

That'd work for me, but that's essentially what the music forum used to be. I don't think there is another forum within a forum though is there? You would run the risk of people not realising it's there.

Realistically there is almost no common ground between the old music forum and TV and film, despite what conclusions might be drawn from just reading the forum title. I still think the easiest solution would be to revert back to having just a music forum. I don't really care where the TV and film section ends up really, provided it goes in somewhere where there is sufficient traffic to give the existing threads a fighting chance at surviving.

bigbadbikercats said:

Oy! Moderators!! Either give us back our old "Music" forum or give us a nice shiny new "Musicians" one!!!

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JG

I like the idea of that. It would be more accurate as to what you would find inside. I think the name would need to incorporate something to relate it to equipment too, in case it sounds too formal. What about "Musicians and gear" or something along those lines?

[Famous Graham]

bigbadbikercats said:

Famous Graham said:

Maybe expand the Home Cinema forum to include any sort of electronic hardware - there is the crossover (arf) to amplifiers, processors and suchlike, after all.

What about non-electronic stuff? I mean, if I'm looking for advice on choosing a new acoustic guitar, or (as I occasionally fool myself into believing I will one day) learning the piano then "Home Cinema" is not the obvious place to look for it is it?

Oy! Moderators!! Either give us back our old "Music" forum or give us a nice shiny new "Musicians" one!!!

--
JG

Fair point (although I wasn't suggesting keeping the name as narrow as "Home Cinema").

Thinking about it some more, I think the separate Music forum as was, is the better structure, given the input from, and advice for, musicians.

It's akin to the Photography forum in that regard, whereas the TV&Film area is more or less exclusively for talking about the shows & films themselves, not making them (although I realise there have been a few threads involved with production, it's not nearly as widespread as in music or photography).

[gingerpaul]

Famous Graham said:

It's akin to the Photography forum in that regard, whereas the TV&Film area is more or less exclusively for talking about the shows & films themselves, not making them (although I realise there have been a few threads involved with production, it's not nearly as widespread as in music or photography).

I bet people interested in the production side would actually get a better response in the photography and video rather than TV and film. I think there are some people in video production in there.

[Famous Graham]

gingerpaul said:

Famous Graham said:

It's akin to the Photography forum in that regard, whereas the TV&Film area is more or less exclusively for talking about the shows & films themselves, not making them (although I realise there have been a few threads involved with production, it's not nearly as widespread as in music or photography).

I bet people interested in the production side would actually get a better response in the photography and video rather than TV and film. I think there are some people in video production in there.

[koenig999]

This is not a good move.

Lumping Qs about "what plasma should I get" and appreciation of various bands do not sit together well.

Please can we have our own sub forum?

Koenig

[Rollin]

Yup....Yet another bad decision. Dear oh dear.

[Pupp]

Agreed. Poor move

[Hunky Dory]

I'm sorry, but I have to agree (and feel obliged to add I have no problems with the P+P changes )
The music forum was exactly that and a place for discussion of music (bands etc), but also advice for those wanting to learn to have a go for themselves.
It may not have been the most fast-moving forum, but I completely agree with the comments about the type of posts usually found in there now likely to be lost amid the TV related stuff.



.....and you can forget messing around with the photography forum as well! Am I on the wrong website do you think?

[Big Al.]

Look hang in their guy's we'll probably split it out when the dust dies down It's bloody difficult at the best of times to please 150K + members.

[V8mate]

Thanks for the positive response Big Al.

I know that the Music forum wasn't super busy, but there were some great threads and a great level of conversation between like-minded folk. It was a pleasingly peaceful forum.