New McLaren 650S

New McLaren 650S

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SydneyBridge

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8,776 posts

160 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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JPF40

350 posts

233 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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... and the end of the 12c after just 3 years, its just been discontinued.

Russell996

494 posts

131 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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JPF40 said:
... and the end of the 12c after just 3 years, its just been discontinued.
Really, already discontinued? Seems harsh on recent purchasers of a new 12C, must be quite a few January registrations, now without warning they have an old model!

Louis91ST

18 posts

143 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Long time lurker here, have 2 of these at my work atm and all i can say is wow, strictly wasnt aloud to take videos or pictures but seriously the noise and the front end on them are beautiful real step up from the 12c.

Russell996

494 posts

131 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Louis91ST said:
Long time lurker here, have 2 of these at my work atm and all i can say is wow, strictly wasnt aloud to take videos or pictures but seriously the noise and the front end on them are beautiful real step up from the 12c.
Can you draw a picture for us? wink

LukeyLikey

855 posts

149 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Well, I'm not too worried. I like the look of the existing 12C and I doubt the technology on the 650S will be massively different. No doubt more power and some chassis improvements too will make the new car just fantastic. Not that the 12C needs more power but I wonder if the mechanical upgrades will be available to existing owners?

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Wow, never knew the 12C was getting discontinued already either. May help with the residuals?

On another note, why are the press saying its a Ferrari speciali rival? Does the standard 12C not beat the Speciali?

neil-f

1,647 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Does the standard 12C not beat the Speciale?
NO biggrin

DeltaOne

558 posts

215 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Seen it at MTC today. Hate to sound flakey but not sure what I think. Its a 12C evolution (12c discontinued etc etc), and has been improved imo with a more P1 like front end, a rear end more like the GT3 version, and a totally different style of side intakes (essentially they're now covered on the front side, which the car at the factory had in carbon and looked superb.

As a long standing fan of the 12c I'm sure I'll enjoy this too... its not as different as I'd have hoped frankly, then again its a damned sight more different than that ridiculous Ferrari California T that they released yesterday....

Russell996

494 posts

131 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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DeltaOne said:
Seen it at MTC today. Hate to sound flakey but not sure what I think. Its a 12C evolution (12c discontinued etc etc), and has been improved imo with a more P1 like front end, a rear end more like the GT3 version, and a totally different style of side intakes (essentially they're now covered on the front side, which the car at the factory had in carbon and looked superb.

As a long standing fan of the 12c I'm sure I'll enjoy this too... its not as different as I'd have hoped frankly
Did they say the 12C is discontinued to you today at the MTC? The latest press release seemed to suggest the standard 12C is continuing in production contrary to the earlier reports.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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DeltaOne said:
Seen it at MTC today. Hate to sound flakey but not sure what I think. Its a 12C evolution (12c discontinued etc etc), and has been improved imo with a more P1 like front end, a rear end more like the GT3 version, and a totally different style of side intakes (essentially they're now covered on the front side, which the car at the factory had in carbon and looked superb.

As a long standing fan of the 12c I'm sure I'll enjoy this too... its not as different as I'd have hoped frankly, then again its a damned sight more different than that ridiculous Ferrari California T that they released yesterday....
Wow, thats the biggest description anyone has dared to give who has saw the car. You mean P1 front with regards to bumper or the vents in the bonnet?

I also heard the 12C lives on but they needed room to build this 650S so production halted??

Mezzanine

9,325 posts

221 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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It is not a completely new model though is it?

More a substantial facelift of the 12C platform.

Cannot fault the development team at McLaren...they are certainly churning out the product range!

DeltaOne

558 posts

215 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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I was told that 12C production has stopped, and that deliveries of the new car will commence in the next couple of months in both coupe and spider guises (the spider was on show today). Sounds like the press will be given the shots/spec in the next day to two, and then it'll be on show at Geneva

Its the overall look of the front end that evoked memories of the P1 for me. Its not the vents, more the lights and bumper. I'd be being unfair calling the car a 12C with a P1 front and GT3 rear but if you think that you'll get my drift. The interior was almost unchanged from the 12c. If, like me, you preferred the 12c to the 458 then this will simply be another reason to take that preference to the next level....if the opposite view then I'm not sure a great deal will change now. Its strictly evolutionary.

It looked slightly shorter than the 12c too to my eyes, although this might just be the front overhang as I suspect dimensions are almost identical.

Have to say I never tire of going to the MTC. Its just a hell of a place. The staff are as friendly as can be, the whole place is Bond-like in how it functions. Immaculately dressed staff, doors that slide open as you wave you hand in front of them. They asked very nicely for phones to be left outside at which point they were placed in a little plastic bag, personally labelled, that looked like it could probably survive an attack that knocked out every other mobile in the UK.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

209 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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So a bit like that Vorsteiner kit that was floating about? GT3 rear and P1 front?



DeltaOne

558 posts

215 months

Thursday 13th February 2014
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Front end looks better - far sexier - than that, the light cluster is better integrated just like the P1. Your back end image is a much better mock up (though six hours later am now doubting exactly what I saw!).....

To be clear there's no GT3 wing, its the 12C one carried over

Cheib

23,379 posts

177 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Wanta996Gotta said:
DeltaOne said:
Seen it at MTC today. Hate to sound flakey but not sure what I think. Its a 12C evolution (12c discontinued etc etc), and has been improved imo with a more P1 like front end, a rear end more like the GT3 version, and a totally different style of side intakes (essentially they're now covered on the front side, which the car at the factory had in carbon and looked superb.

As a long standing fan of the 12c I'm sure I'll enjoy this too... its not as different as I'd have hoped frankly, then again its a damned sight more different than that ridiculous Ferrari California T that they released yesterday....
Wow, thats the biggest description anyone has dared to give who has saw the car. You mean P1 front with regards to bumper or the vents in the bonnet?

I also heard the 12C lives on but they needed room to build this 650S so production halted??
Autocar reported the P1 style front end here http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/geneva-motor-sho...

They also say there will be a base version and one with a "carbon kit".

Steve12NG

259 posts

154 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Wanta996Gotta said:
DeltaOne said:
Seen it at MTC today...
Wow, thats the biggest description anyone has dared to give who has saw the car...
God Almighty. It's like fingers down a blackboard.

Doesn't anyone teach English in your country any more?

Cheib

23,379 posts

177 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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Steve12NG said:
God Almighty. It's like fingers down a blackboard.
biggrin

Peloton25

986 posts

240 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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Here are the first photos of the new McLaren 650S - as you can see, not a wide departure from the current 12C but for those who had issues with the styling I think it will be seen as more appealing.





One of their soon-to-be-released media photos as well:



>8^)
ER

Edited by Peloton25 on Saturday 15th February 23:35

Peloton25

986 posts

240 months

Sunday 16th February 2014
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