Surprising sale!

Surprising sale!

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Beefmeister

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16,482 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Must say i'm very surprised to see Andy74b's P1 GTR up for sale:

http://www.tomhartleyjnr.com/used/2016/mclaren/p1/...



I guess he's got either a Senna, Valkyrie or Project One coming but the P1 is such a perfect pair with his F1 GTR, seems very odd to sell it.

J8 SVG

1,468 posts

136 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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He has a valkyrie on the way and he's always said he loves the F1 way more than the P1 and if he's got the choice of one or the other he'll always drive the F1..

They do look amazing together though

Beefmeister

Original Poster:

16,482 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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J8 SVG said:
He has a valkyrie on the way and he's always said he loves the F1 way more than the P1 and if he's got the choice of one or the other he'll always drive the F1..

They do look amazing together though
Ah okay. It's easy to assume there's a bottomless pot of money but even those with mega money need to release funds to buy a £3m car like the Valkyrie hehe

p1stonhead

26,803 posts

173 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Any guesses? £4m?

WCZ

10,779 posts

200 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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still the quickest road legal ring car! wonder how this next wave will perform

Streetrod

6,468 posts

212 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Now I would buy that if I was suitably rich plus I suspect I would double its mileage in my first weekend of ownership

Butter Face

31,409 posts

166 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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p1stonhead said:
Any guesses? £4m?
Is that what a P1 goes for??

p1stonhead

26,803 posts

173 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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Butter Face said:
p1stonhead said:
Any guesses? £4m?
Is that what a P1 goes for??
A road legal P1 GTR is pretty rare. It’s no mere P1. I think the GTR was £2.5m to start with, then conversion etc?

Perhaps £3m more realistic?

Sarnie

8,150 posts

215 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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£3-£4m cars......................I obviously didn't try hard enough at school............cry

will_

6,030 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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The surprise for me is that it's only done 850 miles - what's the point?

p1stonhead

26,803 posts

173 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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will_ said:
The surprise for me is that it's only done 850 miles - what's the point?
When it costs you £10k a mile or some nonsense (probably) even the richest blokes would think twice about every single one I guess.

Butter Face

31,409 posts

166 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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will_ said:
The surprise for me is that it's only done 850 miles - what's the point?
Does seem a shame doesn’t it! Cars like these aren’t bought to drive though, they’re bought to keep nice, clean and dry and it’s better than money in the bank!

p1stonhead

26,803 posts

173 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Sarnie said:
£3-£4m cars......................I obviously didn't try hard enough at school............cry
Says the man who also owns a McLaren! hehe

hurstg01

2,991 posts

249 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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WCZ said:
still the quickest road legal ring car! wonder how this next wave will perform
Incorrect - the P1 GTR 'only' has the 3.8L engine; the Ring Lap Time holder P1LM has the 4.0L and has 40% extra down force [Have you seen that wing!!] and made-for-it Pirelli tyres

I bet the P1GTR could still set a sub 7 minute lap though smile

pincher

8,978 posts

223 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Dealer has financing available - once I’m off the toilet, I’ll get on the phone phone

Davey S2

13,138 posts

260 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Looks amazing in the pics but I've never really seen the point of these road converted race cars.

You just end up with a very compromised road car and a race car that's not quite as good on track as it was originally.

Not something you could take on a trip around Europe without a lot of support either.

I know Andy isn't exactly spoilt for choice about which cars to drive but just 850 miles on this would seem to show its little more than a show car.

Davey S2

13,138 posts

260 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Is this his 'Spectre' Defender also up for sale with TH?

http://www.tomhartleyjnr.com/used/2011/land-rover/...

will_

6,030 posts

209 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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p1stonhead said:
will_ said:
The surprise for me is that it's only done 850 miles - what's the point?
When it costs you £10k a mile or some nonsense (probably) even the richest blokes would think twice about every single one I guess.
Well sure, but certainly the impression I got was that a lot of thought, time and energy had gone into making the car bespoke (e.g. the LARK livery). Was it Evo that drove it too? For it not even then to have been run-in seems a bit weird - like building a house to your exact specification and then not living in it!

He doesn't seem to mind doing some miles in his F1, where exactly the same argument applies.

Up to Andy of course but I expected the car to have done some miles and not be a garage queen. Maybe it actually is horrid to drive on the road?

andy74b

832 posts

233 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Davey S2 said:
Looks amazing in the pics but I've never really seen the point of these road converted race cars.

You just end up with a very compromised road car and a race car that's not quite as good on track as it was originally.

Not something you could take on a trip around Europe without a lot of support either.

I know Andy isn't exactly spoilt for choice about which cars to drive but just 850 miles on this would seem to show its little more than a show car.
Hardly just a show car. I would love to do more miles in all my cars but working in London during the week and busy family life with 3 kids simply means do not have the time. Between my cars I still manage decent mileage and I think anyone that knows me knows that all my cars get used.

Butter Face

31,409 posts

166 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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TH jnr really does have some awesome cars too cloud9

Edit: Also, TH has a P1 @ 1.5, IMO this seems better 'value' if you're actually gonna drive it?!

Edited by Butter Face on Thursday 4th January 10:17