750S or Artura?
Discussion
I've had 6 McLaren's so far including all the usual suspects from 12C onwards.
I've been away from the brand since my last one, a 600LT in 2022. I now feel I have another newer one in me and thinking a 750S or Artura. I've had all their predecessors so no interest in 720S at half the price etc.
My dilemma is last V8 v1.0 Mac or newer v2.0 Mac but a downsized V6 hybrid.
Purely a road car for me in my advancing years, no interest in track abilities, something that can do daily stuff but thrill when required.
Thoughts?
I've been away from the brand since my last one, a 600LT in 2022. I now feel I have another newer one in me and thinking a 750S or Artura. I've had all their predecessors so no interest in 720S at half the price etc.
My dilemma is last V8 v1.0 Mac or newer v2.0 Mac but a downsized V6 hybrid.
Purely a road car for me in my advancing years, no interest in track abilities, something that can do daily stuff but thrill when required.
Thoughts?
If you've had lots of previous McLarens, I would guess the Artura offers something new. Specifically they've always been criticised for turbo lag and having an open diff, the Artura directly addresses both of these. It also offers quiet getaways for early-morning blasts. I can't say the McLaren V8 sounds that great, so a V6 isn't necessarily any worse.
750 is lighter, faster outright and has the ProActive chassis control (cross linked dampers) over the Artura.
Depends if you want a 'best of' album or more of a new artistic direction...
Artura ....
https://fastestlaps.com/models/mclaren-artura
and 750S
https://fastestlaps.com/models/mclaren-750S
When is fast, fast enough ??
I love my Artura which has the sense of unlimited power ... but learning how to get the best from it is more than just a right foot bravery exercise ...
https://fastestlaps.com/models/mclaren-artura
and 750S
https://fastestlaps.com/models/mclaren-750S
When is fast, fast enough ??
I love my Artura which has the sense of unlimited power ... but learning how to get the best from it is more than just a right foot bravery exercise ...
The Artura is very easy to drive 'fast' at any speed / gear because of the torque infill. You can get quite lazy because if you put your foot down at 2K rpm the battery will be used to accelerate much more quickly than a 750S where there will be some time for the turbo to spin up. Or keep the rpm high and the turbo spinning and you can drive it like a 750.
supersport said:
Artura just because it s different. The 750 is so similar to the 720.
My default is to go for the 750 as the Super Series but I get the appeal of a different V6 Hybrid powertrain to the 750 (720) which I've owned before.Both cars are plenty fast enough for me and I'm not bothered about track times. Maybe the Artura will provide a bit more engagement as something I've not tried before?
I went 750; last of the pure ICE cars and the ultimate usable evolution of the super series platform. It's a bigger step up from the 720 than people seem to think (I had two 720s before) both in performance and in build quality.
I like the look of the Artura, but feel the gen 1 hybrid platform still has work to be done. The things that stood out for me in my Artura test drive (of a 2023 car, note) were the slightly synthetic feel to the driving experience, the lack of regen braking and the absence of reverse gear if the HV battery is flat - which meant sitting in a car park idling until it had enough charge to back out of the space. I understand that the 2025 car is much improved.
I like the look of the Artura, but feel the gen 1 hybrid platform still has work to be done. The things that stood out for me in my Artura test drive (of a 2023 car, note) were the slightly synthetic feel to the driving experience, the lack of regen braking and the absence of reverse gear if the HV battery is flat - which meant sitting in a car park idling until it had enough charge to back out of the space. I understand that the 2025 car is much improved.
964Cup said:
I went 750; last of the pure ICE cars and the ultimate usable evolution of the super series platform. It's a bigger step up from the 720 than people seem to think (I had two 720s before) both in performance and in build quality.
I like the look of the Artura, but feel the gen 1 hybrid platform still has work to be done. The things that stood out for me in my Artura test drive (of a 2023 car, note) were the slightly synthetic feel to the driving experience, the lack of regen braking and the absence of reverse gear if the HV battery is flat - which meant sitting in a car park idling until it had enough charge to back out of the space. I understand that the 2025 car is much improved.
Great feedback, thanks 964I like the look of the Artura, but feel the gen 1 hybrid platform still has work to be done. The things that stood out for me in my Artura test drive (of a 2023 car, note) were the slightly synthetic feel to the driving experience, the lack of regen braking and the absence of reverse gear if the HV battery is flat - which meant sitting in a car park idling until it had enough charge to back out of the space. I understand that the 2025 car is much improved.
964Cup said:
absence of reverse gear if the HV battery is flat - which meant sitting in a car park idling until it had enough charge to back out of the space. I understand that the 2025 car is much improved.
Yes, I believe this is now 'fixed'. I've backed into my garage with no HV battery charge left.964Cup said:
I went 750; last of the pure ICE cars and the ultimate usable evolution of the super series platform. It's a bigger step up from the 720 than people seem to think (I had two 720s before) both in performance and in build quality.
I like the look of the Artura, but feel the gen 1 hybrid platform still has work to be done. The things that stood out for me in my Artura test drive (of a 2023 car, note) were the slightly synthetic feel to the driving experience, the lack of regen braking and the absence of reverse gear if the HV battery is flat - which meant sitting in a car park idling until it had enough charge to back out of the space. I understand that the 2025 car is much improved.
Did that ever happen to you ? Or did it just worry you ? Even in Comfort mode you can set the car the recharge the battery and in Sport or Track the HV battery doesn't normally drop to a very low level. As an aside, how far were you planning to reverse ??I like the look of the Artura, but feel the gen 1 hybrid platform still has work to be done. The things that stood out for me in my Artura test drive (of a 2023 car, note) were the slightly synthetic feel to the driving experience, the lack of regen braking and the absence of reverse gear if the HV battery is flat - which meant sitting in a car park idling until it had enough charge to back out of the space. I understand that the 2025 car is much improved.
The controls of the Artura and 750S are of the same generation ... the 24/2025 model year was a refresh from the 2022 and there is on-going development simply because McLaren are low volume manufacturers offering many build options. On the upside it's nearly all in the firmware which can be updated ... as can the battery should it ever be required ...
My bugbear with the 750S is that it is significantly noisier than the Artura, I love the Bowers and Wilkins sound system, the suspension is far kinder than in my GT3 and I don't recall the suspension of my 12C being any better (the super series suspension) ... but were I you I would definitely try both ...
ChrisW. said:
My bugbear with the 750S is that it is significantly noisier than the Artura, I love the Bowers and Wilkins sound system, the suspension is far kinder than in my GT3 and I don't recall the suspension of my 12C being any better (the super series suspension) ... but were I you I would definitely try both ...
Do you mean the exhaust note or internal road noise?After many sonically underwhelming McLarens the sound of the 750S is one of my favourite features!
br d said:
ChrisW. said:
My bugbear with the 750S is that it is significantly noisier than the Artura, I love the Bowers and Wilkins sound system, the suspension is far kinder than in my GT3 and I don't recall the suspension of my 12C being any better (the super series suspension) ... but were I you I would definitely try both ...
Do you mean the exhaust note or internal road noise?After many sonically underwhelming McLarens the sound of the 750S is one of my favourite features!
ChrisW. said:
Did that ever happen to you ? Or did it just worry you ? Even in Comfort mode you can set the car the recharge the battery and in Sport or Track the HV battery doesn't normally drop to a very low level. As an aside, how far were you planning to reverse ??
It happened to me, hence the comment about idling in the car park. How far? Out of a parking space. The battery was flat because I had been running in pure electric mode as a test to see if I could do my commute on electric as I had been able to in a previous i8. Setting the car to charge the battery seems to me to defeat the point of hybridisation, hence my point about lack of regen.ChrisW. said:
My bugbear with the 750S is that it is significantly noisier than the Artura, I love the Bowers and Wilkins sound system, the suspension is far kinder than in my GT3 and I don't recall the suspension of my 12C being any better (the super series suspension) ... but were I you I would definitely try both ...
It's very dependent on tyre choice and road surface; in general I find it better on the continent than in the UK.For what it's worth, I've driven both cars back to back at Croft circuit and I found the 750 to be notably better / faster. For me it definitely had the WOW factor !
The 750 delivers more drama / theatre aurally and dynamically. The one I drove also had Senna seats, which I found to be superb (for the track at least).
Having said that, the 750 is significantly more expensive and I think the Artura may be more suited to road driving / long road trips. It would be on my short list, when the cost of a fully sorted 2025 Spider is within my ballpark :-)
The 750 delivers more drama / theatre aurally and dynamically. The one I drove also had Senna seats, which I found to be superb (for the track at least).
Having said that, the 750 is significantly more expensive and I think the Artura may be more suited to road driving / long road trips. It would be on my short list, when the cost of a fully sorted 2025 Spider is within my ballpark :-)
964Cup said:
ChrisW. said:
Did that ever happen to you ? Or did it just worry you ? Even in Comfort mode you can set the car the recharge the battery and in Sport or Track the HV battery doesn't normally drop to a very low level. As an aside, how far were you planning to reverse ??
It happened to me, hence the comment about idling in the car park. How far? Out of a parking space. The battery was flat because I had been running in pure electric mode as a test to see if I could do my commute on electric 
At least they've solved it now (and presumably the older cars get their software updated?), some manufacturers would have just warned you against it on page 235 of a revised user manual.
All very subjective ... I hear that the 750 may be replaced in the foreseeable future ...
Will that be a negotiating opportunity for purchasers or ??
Will new cars have to have all the nanny aids that drive us mad ? My EV3 bongs so much it's sometimes impossible to tell what or where the problem is ... e.g rain or road dirt buildup on range / cruise automation (even when not in use) ... taking an extra moment to check a junction means that you are failing to pay attention ... ??
Will that be a negotiating opportunity for purchasers or ??
Will new cars have to have all the nanny aids that drive us mad ? My EV3 bongs so much it's sometimes impossible to tell what or where the problem is ... e.g rain or road dirt buildup on range / cruise automation (even when not in use) ... taking an extra moment to check a junction means that you are failing to pay attention ... ??
ChrisW. said:
All very subjective ... I hear that the 750 may be replaced in the foreseeable future ...
Will that be a negotiating opportunity for purchasers or ??
Will new cars have to have all the nanny aids that drive us mad ? My EV3 bongs so much it's sometimes impossible to tell what or where the problem is ... e.g rain or road dirt buildup on range / cruise automation (even when not in use) ... taking an extra moment to check a junction means that you are failing to pay attention ... ??
There was a dealer meeting in December where McLaren set out their future product roadmap. Seems like both the 750S and Artura will be replaced next year with a Gen 2 V6 hybrid, presumably in a few different flavours. An SUV and 2+2 Coupe are also in the pipeline.Will that be a negotiating opportunity for purchasers or ??
Will new cars have to have all the nanny aids that drive us mad ? My EV3 bongs so much it's sometimes impossible to tell what or where the problem is ... e.g rain or road dirt buildup on range / cruise automation (even when not in use) ... taking an extra moment to check a junction means that you are failing to pay attention ... ??
There will also be an MSO derived 788HS based on the 765LT, same format as the 688HS etc.
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