Best diesel to run veg oil without modification
Best diesel to run veg oil without modification
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nickythesaint

Original Poster:

1,397 posts

188 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Hi Folks,

Anyone know what the best diesel engines that will run on veg oil without modification?

I've read Merc and VW's tend to cope well, any other suggestions?

Cheers,

NTS

MJK 24

5,670 posts

258 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Older Mercedes and Volkswagen's will. Older Peugeot and Citroën 1.9 diesels too but ONLY those with a Bosch injection pump. Engines with Lucas injection pumps will suffer problems.

BarnatosGhost

32,421 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Agree with the above. You need a Bosch pump. The Lucas ones will fail. Merc 250D and 300D are the preferred choice as they have a fuel pre-heater that better enables smooth fuelling in cold weather.

andoverben

429 posts

262 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I have just picked up a Citroen ZX 1.9 TD Volcane for Buttons for Mrs Andoverben to do her 70 Mile Commute in that I am going to test this theory on.

Drove it back and actually it was great fun chucking it down b roads as well just need to find a cheap source of Cooking Oil now

BarnatosGhost

32,421 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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The best I've found for fresh stuff is £1.02 in Makro.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

261 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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BarnatosGhost said:
The best I've found for fresh stuff is £1.02 in Makro.
If it's that price at makro I promise it will be cheaper elsewher

BarnatosGhost

32,421 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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jas xjr said:
BarnatosGhost said:
The best I've found for fresh stuff is £1.02 in Makro.
If it's that price at makro I promise it will be cheaper elsewher
I'm all ears. Will travel for cheap veg...

ipsg.glf

1,590 posts

240 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I've got a 1999 non-turbo Skoda Felicia 1.9 - Can I run this on vegetable oil?

BarnatosGhost

32,421 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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ipsg.glf said:
I've got a 1999 non-turbo Skoda Felicia 1.9 - Can I run this on vegetable oil?
Is it common-rail injection?

XitUp

7,690 posts

226 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I run mine on cold pressed extra virgin olive oil, any sources of cheap SVO would be nice.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

231 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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So with the Merc engines is the 2.2 safe to run on Veg oil?

bigoggy

1,607 posts

186 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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andoverben said:
I have just picked up a Citroen ZX 1.9 TD Volcane for Buttons for Mrs Andoverben to do her 70 Mile Commute in that I am going to test this theory on.

Drove it back and actually it was great fun chucking it down b roads as well just need to find a cheap source of Cooking Oil now
i ran a zx on veg oil for 7 months, i never had any problems, and it even passed the mot on it

it helped that my mother is the cook in an old peoples home, and they gave me 40 litres of used oil each week, after filtering all the rubbish out, i would get 30 litres of usable stuff

the only draw back is driving home from work, been hungry, and your car smells of chips

BarnatosGhost

32,421 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Engineer1 said:
So with the Merc engines is the 2.2 safe to run on Veg oil?
No, too modern and too sensitive. Basically anything with high-pressure injection won't work. CDI, TDCI, CDTI TDDI, anything like that won't do.

Basically, you need the sort of thing you would use to pump water out of a copper mine in black-and-white. But in a car.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

201 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Citroen ZX/Xantia/etc with the XUD9 engine.

However you need to check if the fuel pump is the Bosch or Lucas one - the Bosch pump can handle the higher viscocity long-term, the Lucas pump can't. The two pumps were used interchangeably so there's no way of knowing which one a car will have without looking under the bonnet.

tim2100

6,288 posts

279 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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BarnatosGhost said:
I'm all ears. Will travel for cheap veg...
I'm sure Costco is ~£18 for 20L.

Mr Snap

2,364 posts

179 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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bigoggy said:
andoverben said:
I have just picked up a Citroen ZX 1.9 TD Volcane for Buttons for Mrs Andoverben to do her 70 Mile Commute in that I am going to test this theory on.

Drove it back and actually it was great fun chucking it down b roads as well just need to find a cheap source of Cooking Oil now
i ran a zx on veg oil for 7 months, i never had any problems, and it even passed the mot on it

it helped that my mother is the cook in an old peoples home, and they gave me 40 litres of used oil each week, after filtering all the rubbish out, i would get 30 litres of usable stuff

the only draw back is driving home from work, been hungry, and your car smells of chips
There's a bus in Brighton that runs on old chip oil, it doesn't half pen and ink.
I'm all for the idea in principle but the fumes tend to set off my asthma, if I get too close...

andy43

12,465 posts

276 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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3.0 TD Landcruiser is ok too - I never got to 100% veg, but they're supposed to be fine as long as it's not too cold.
Whatever you run, change the fuel filter regularly as the oil tends to clean out the fuel system like a detergent.

freecar

4,249 posts

209 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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I've gone up to 100% in my Pajero 2.8, it doesn't like it when cold, you need to keep a foot on the throttle for the first mile or so but after that it's fine!

I pay £1.10 a litre from tesco while I do my shop, thinking about filtering waste oil soon though.

AshRS250

516 posts

226 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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Another plug for a Pajero 2.8 . . . . . .

dome

688 posts

279 months

Monday 23rd May 2011
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bigoggy said:
the only draw back is driving home from work, been hungry, and your car smells of chips
Yep, I remember this feeling well biggrin

I ran a Merc 300d on it and also my old Rover 200-I swear it actually went better on veg and ran much quieter. As a leftfield choice a Ford Scorpio with the VM diesel is supposed to be very good too, if you can live with the looks...


www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk is a uselful source for inforation.

Go for it.

Brian