Volkswagen ID pre orders open May 8th
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From AutoExpress - https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/97043/new...
I think this will be the EV to beat, I'll certainly be getting an order in as soon as it opens. Anyone else?
I think this will be the EV to beat, I'll certainly be getting an order in as soon as it opens. Anyone else?
Looks like they're talking about 3 levels - a 48kWh to do ~200, 55kWh for around 280 and a 64kWh which can do around 342. As it's kicking off around £26k I'd imagine a mid-range for circa £30k should be doable. They've also talked about simplified spec levels (thank god).
Hopefully the deposit will be similar to the Hyundai system where it's refundable pretty much up until registration - being an online system I suspect that will be the case.
Hopefully the deposit will be similar to the Hyundai system where it's refundable pretty much up until registration - being an online system I suspect that will be the case.
kambites said:
If the 64kwh one is over £35k before government incentives it'll be over-priced, IMO.
The cheapest Kona 64kWh is £36,300 before incentives - I'd hope the VW is a little cheaper than that.I get the feeling VW have been so burnt by Dieselgate they're throwing lots of money at EV development in order to get some good PR - hopefully that pays off with a decent product.
Tophatron said:
Looks like they're talking about 3 levels - a 48kWh to do ~200, 55kWh for around 280 and a 64kWh which can do around 342. As it's kicking off around £26k I'd imagine a mid-range for circa £30k should be doable. They've also talked about simplified spec levels (thank god).
Hopefully the deposit will be similar to the Hyundai system where it's refundable pretty much up until registration - being an online system I suspect that will be the case.
Happy to be proved wrong when they're on sales, but they're never going to make a 64KWh car travel 342 miles unless it's about the same height as a GT40 or made of carbon fibre.Hopefully the deposit will be similar to the Hyundai system where it's refundable pretty much up until registration - being an online system I suspect that will be the case.
Still let's hope they get the pricing and supply right to get more drivers looking at EVs.
Why will nobody make a small suv BEVkambites said:
So you want a small SUV BEV which isn't small? 
The i-Pace?
Too expensiveThe i-Pace?
The Kona, Niro, Soul are all crossovers really
There’s nothing “small SUV” (Kodiaq, Tiguan, 3008, X3 etc) that’s a BEV, unless you step up to an I-Pace/Model X and £70k+
- seems a curious omission given the popularity of the small SUV class nowadays
essayer said:
Too expensive
The Kona, Niro, Soul are all crossovers really
There’s nothing “small SUV” (Kodiaq, Tiguan, 3008, X3 etc) that’s a BEV, unless you step up to an I-Pace/Model X and £70k+
- seems a curious omission given the popularity of the small SUV class nowadays
Isn’t it just a current function of economics? The lower brands have chosen their more expensive model type, the crossover, to be their low volume EV product because their other segments cannot carry the costs. The average price paid for a crossover is quite a bit higher than the other segments at the bottom of the market. Meanwhile, the higher end firms are doing exactly the same and starting at their more expensive segments where they can bury the higher costs into larger margins more easily and where the consumer is less price sensitive. The Kona, Niro, Soul are all crossovers really
There’s nothing “small SUV” (Kodiaq, Tiguan, 3008, X3 etc) that’s a BEV, unless you step up to an I-Pace/Model X and £70k+
- seems a curious omission given the popularity of the small SUV class nowadays
The market is still very much in its infancy and firms are still testing the waters for true demand and testing supply chains and pricing stabilities with the segments where they carry the highest margins so that the risks are minimised.
The next step would seem logical to assume will be the small SUV segment but this will still be driven primarily by the more premium brands as they have their consumer demographic to be able to sell non essential, premium cost goods. It’s going to be a while longer until the economics make something like a Duster EV viable and probably by then we will have the Chinese brands operating in the UK and seeking to dominate the bottom end of the market.
EVLATECOMER said:
Happy to be proved wrong when they're on sales, but they're never going to make a 64KWh car travel 342 miles unless it's about the same height as a GT40 or made of carbon fibre.
Still let's hope they get the pricing and supply right to get more drivers looking at EVs.
This. Or incredibly slow.Still let's hope they get the pricing and supply right to get more drivers looking at EVs.
I personally won't be touching anything VAG but reckon it's all hot air.
If the Audi e-tron is anything to go by it'll be worse than the competition. The e-up/e-golf is also s
te.I accept the low range of my i3s as it's bloody quick, refreshing different and BMW have worked hard to keep the weight down (carbon fibre etc).
The Hyundai/Kia offerings will be the one's to beat imo for a while to come.
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