Any e-208 owners?
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Driving Electric have their UK review out, I think it looks great. This or a model 3 for me at the moment
https://youtu.be/BP03DqpMg-E
https://youtu.be/BP03DqpMg-E
Edited by doogle83 on Wednesday 4th March 18:33
Yes you can pre-heat it:
They reckon 113 miles at 70mph at 0 degree Celsius. Even in ideal weather they only claim ~130 miles at 70. The car apparently has pretty appalling aerodynamics!
ETA: Although Vauxhall have the same range calculator giving exactly the same numbers for the Corsa E which obviously has a different body, so maybe it's not just aerodynamics.
Peugeot said:
...MYPEUGEOT® application which allows remote management of certain features such as pre-programming of charging and heating and checking the battery charge level...
Peugeot actually have a range calculator on their site which is surprisingly pessimistic. About half way down this page: https://www.peugeot.co.uk/showroom/new-208/e-208/They reckon 113 miles at 70mph at 0 degree Celsius. Even in ideal weather they only claim ~130 miles at 70. The car apparently has pretty appalling aerodynamics!
ETA: Although Vauxhall have the same range calculator giving exactly the same numbers for the Corsa E which obviously has a different body, so maybe it's not just aerodynamics.
Edited by kambites on Friday 26th June 07:23
anonymous said:
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No chance unfortunately.It's a city car at the end of the day. Shifting 1500kg along at 70MPH with only 136bhp is going to require a lot of effort from the motor and battery pack so not surprised that even in perfect conditions the range tumbles significantly once the average speed gets above 50mph.
For that kind of range in winter (with headroom) you'll need something like a Kona, Kia Niro EV or Model 3 SR+.
Our i3 120ah which would happily do 190 miles in the summer around town would struggle to do 100 miles at 70mph in the winter.
SWoll said:
Shifting 1500kg along at 70MPH with only 136bhp is going to require a lot of effort from the motor and battery pack so not surprised that even in perfect conditions the range tumbles significantly once the average speed gets above 50mph.
Weight has little to no relation to motorway driving efficiency.My commute/work involves about 20k pa. 100/120 miles per day 4 days per week 50/30/ 20 motorway/urban/backstreets. Think one of these might work in GT spec. And fuel savings of £200 pm might offset extra cost. Also seem a nice interior with plenty of tech to keep me interested due to attention span of a two yr old child.
Mikebentley said:
My commute/work involves about 20k pa. 100/120 miles per day 4 days per week 50/30/ 20 motorway/urban/backstreets. Think one of these might work in GT spec. And fuel savings of £200 pm might offset extra cost. Also seem a nice interior with plenty of tech to keep me interested due to attention span of a two yr old child.
Do you have access to a charger at work? If not, you're going to have to either drive quite slowly in the winter or do a brief quick-charge on the way home.ZesPak said:
(I'm aware the e-208 is a well equipped car and the base petrol isn't though)
Damned slight faster too! 0-60 in 7.8 seconds vs 12.8 seconds for the slowest ICE version. ETA: Anyway the cheapest petrol 208 seems to have a list price of £17k OTR. Add an automatic gearbox (which is an increasingly common thing to do, even on these small cars) and it's close to £20k.
Edited by kambites on Friday 26th June 11:18
I’m looking for something to get me out of my van. It’s lease is till Feb 2021 so I have some breathing space. Van costs £276pm plus £250 to £300 in fuel. If feasible I want to consider EV and the e 208 GT is a very good package with toys. It seems the mainstream makers are just at the point of making decent range affordable. I need to lease as it has tax benefits for me personally. The Zoe is a bit pensioners shopping car for me.
There are some good ICE deals out there and I believe from the lease thread that lenders are about to start putting some interesting offers out as they try to recover post lockdown.
There are some good ICE deals out there and I believe from the lease thread that lenders are about to start putting some interesting offers out as they try to recover post lockdown.
kambites said:
Damned slight faster too! 0-60 in 7.8 seconds vs 12.8 seconds for the slowest ICE version.
ETA: Anyway the cheapest petrol 208 seems to have a list price of £17k OTR. Add an automatic gearbox (which is an increasingly common thing to do, even on these small cars) and it's close to £20k.
What's OTR?ETA: Anyway the cheapest petrol 208 seems to have a list price of £17k OTR. Add an automatic gearbox (which is an increasingly common thing to do, even on these small cars) and it's close to £20k.
I just checked, over here it's almost 15k for the cheapest petrol and little over 30k EUR for the EV.
I do quite like the look of the latest Peugeots as well. The 508 is a beautiful car imho.
ZesPak said:
What's OTR?
"On The Road". Ie including all taxes, registration fees, subsidies, etc. In the UK the very cheapest model is £16,845; the cheapest electric version is £28,715, so £12k more. I think the equipment levels are actually the same although the EV has twice the power and obviously an "automatic" (single speed) gearbox. Stick an automatic gearbox in the petrol and it's £19,385 (and although that gets you the 100bhp engine as well).
Do a reasonal "price delta" for the EV in the UK is about £10k. Still a lot, but not £18k at least!
ETA Actually Peugeot's definition of "OTR" doesn't include the government grant, so the EV is £25,715. So the difference for vaguely equivalent specs is actually about £6500, which is rather more reasonable.
Edited by kambites on Friday 26th June 14:19
This guy on Youtube does lots of decent reviews and tests, based in Norway, he is pretty thorough...
https://youtu.be/_oLRaxetAPg
He seems to rate it.
Car Pervert (Johnny Smith) also likes the e-208, think he did a review on the Fully Charged channel
https://youtu.be/_oLRaxetAPg
He seems to rate it.
Car Pervert (Johnny Smith) also likes the e-208, think he did a review on the Fully Charged channel
If you want a reliable 145 miles in the winter at fast motorway speeds, I think you need something with a combined WLTP rating of closer to 250 miles than 200. An eNiro/Kona/Soul would do it, but I don't think there's anything cheaper, at least until the ID3 and its siblings come onto the market later this year.
Also worth noting that if you want to be able to get away with only charging once on the way back, you need a bit of range in reserve because the last ~20% of the battery tends to charge very slowly. For a safety margin you want to get to the charge with at least 5% charge and you don't want to charge beyond 80% so that means you want to be able to do 145 miles plus the distance to the charger on 75% of your battery, which means you want a worst-case real-world range of more like 190 miles to fulfill your needs.
Also worth noting that if you want to be able to get away with only charging once on the way back, you need a bit of range in reserve because the last ~20% of the battery tends to charge very slowly. For a safety margin you want to get to the charge with at least 5% charge and you don't want to charge beyond 80% so that means you want to be able to do 145 miles plus the distance to the charger on 75% of your battery, which means you want a worst-case real-world range of more like 190 miles to fulfill your needs.
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