Tesla drivers go further
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A study by the UK RAC has Tesla owners clocking up the highest annual mileage in the first 3 years of any make of car.
Tesla – 12,459
Mercedes – 12,100
Volvo – 11,578
Ford – 11,488
Mitsubishi – 11,456
Volkswagen – 11,282
Citroen – 11,272
Renault – 10,924
BMW 10,859
Land Rover – 10,716
Steve Gooding, director of the RAC Foundation, said:
"This study is evidence that battery-electric powered cars are not just trophy vehicles signaling their owners’ green credentials.
Tens of millions of people still drive petrol and diesel-powered cars, but this data suggests that owners of electric cars have found them to be a practical proposition, running up the sort of big annual mileages that many of us need to do, challenging preconceptions about their range and the ease of recharging.”
https://electrek.co/2020/04/28/tesla-owners-in-the...
A study by the UK RAC has Tesla owners clocking up the highest annual mileage in the first 3 years of any make of car.
Tesla – 12,459
Mercedes – 12,100
Volvo – 11,578
Ford – 11,488
Mitsubishi – 11,456
Volkswagen – 11,282
Citroen – 11,272
Renault – 10,924
BMW 10,859
Land Rover – 10,716
Steve Gooding, director of the RAC Foundation, said:
"This study is evidence that battery-electric powered cars are not just trophy vehicles signaling their owners’ green credentials.
Tens of millions of people still drive petrol and diesel-powered cars, but this data suggests that owners of electric cars have found them to be a practical proposition, running up the sort of big annual mileages that many of us need to do, challenging preconceptions about their range and the ease of recharging.”
Due to the average cost of a Tesla I hope they are using them lots. The other manufacturers vehicles have been about for years. Lots are old and very cheap cars people need for their families and as such might well only do small mileages.
If I were having to justify the cost of a Tesla I would want to make sure I was doing some miles and not just paying for it to sit there. A lot of Model 3 sales are to business users who are now able to get the range they need to make the ownership attractive with very generous tax breaks.
In other news Tesla’s use less petrol/diesel than all the other manufacturers listed also.
If I were having to justify the cost of a Tesla I would want to make sure I was doing some miles and not just paying for it to sit there. A lot of Model 3 sales are to business users who are now able to get the range they need to make the ownership attractive with very generous tax breaks.
In other news Tesla’s use less petrol/diesel than all the other manufacturers listed also.
Mikebentley said:
Due to the average cost of a Tesla I hope they are using them lots. The other manufacturers vehicles have been about for years. Lots are old and very cheap cars people need for their families and as such might well only do small mileages.
If I were having to justify the cost of a Tesla I would want to make sure I was doing some miles and not just paying for it to sit there. A lot of Model 3 sales are to business users who are now able to get the range they need to make the ownership attractive with very generous tax breaks.
In other news Tesla’s use less petrol/diesel than all the other manufacturers listed also.
This is a study on new cars first 3 years only. Try reading. If I were having to justify the cost of a Tesla I would want to make sure I was doing some miles and not just paying for it to sit there. A lot of Model 3 sales are to business users who are now able to get the range they need to make the ownership attractive with very generous tax breaks.
In other news Tesla’s use less petrol/diesel than all the other manufacturers listed also.
raspy said:
If people who got new petrol/diesel cars in this survey also got free fuel (like free Tesla supercharging) I wonder if the results would have been different?
The financial gap between free supercharging and paying for your own power compared to paying for petrol or diesel is vast. If you can afford the purchase or lease cost of an ev and do lots of miles it's a no brainer, one reason the average for evs and tesla is so high, it makes far less sense if you don't do higher distance.
raspy said:
If people who got new petrol/diesel cars in this survey also got free fuel (like free Tesla supercharging) I wonder if the results would have been different?
You don't get free supercharging with the Model 3.The fact that it costs us about £9 to charge at home and add 250 miles of range to a car with 500bhp is definitely a plus point though.
SWoll said:
raspy said:
If people who got new petrol/diesel cars in this survey also got free fuel (like free Tesla supercharging) I wonder if the results would have been different?
You don't get free supercharging with the Model 3.The fact that it costs us about £9 to charge at home and add 250 miles of range to a car with 500bhp is definitely a plus point though.
RobDickinson said:
Imagine how far they'd go if you could fill up in 5 min after towing your boat 1000 miles across Europe before breakfast.
Why would you invest so much R&D into gearing the technology improvements towards something barely even 0.1% of your potential consumers need?Everyones obsessed by super fast charging but all I seem to keep hearing and makes sense to me is that the vast majority just dont need it.
Alextodrive said:
Everyones obsessed by super fast charging but all I seem to keep hearing and makes sense to me is that the vast majority just dont need it.
Most people dont need it most of the time. But most people do need it some of the time and some people need it all of the time. There isn't any free supercharging any more. Musk/Tesla lied about it, they said it was lifetime free supercharging but now it's not.
If your car had it then when you sell it the free supercharging gets cancelled. They don't offer free supercharging any more, you can build up credits through referrals but they expire.
If your car had it then when you sell it the free supercharging gets cancelled. They don't offer free supercharging any more, you can build up credits through referrals but they expire.
aestetix1 said:
There isn't any free supercharging any more. Musk/Tesla lied about it, they said it was lifetime free supercharging but now it's not.
If that was the only lie Tesla told about Supercharging that would be fine. Not mentioning to owners every time they use the Superchargers they are effectively taking one step closer to having an almost useless long distance car is far worse.Its exactly the same situation as the iPhone 4, a phone you couldn't hold to make a call. But Apple has done fine, and Tesla is doing exactly the same, brush it all under the carpet and wait for all those early S/X owners to run out of warranty.
As for Model 3/Y longterm battery life.....who knows, it's taken 5-6 years of real life use for the battery issues on 85 packs to show, so we need to wait a while longer yet on the 3/Y packs to know how Tesla will nerf them in the long run.
But why it's wouldn't be Tesla's fault, its us stupid owners who want to Supercharger the cars and make long distance trips.
https://www.engadget.com/2010-06-24-apple-responds...
Edited by gangzoom on Thursday 30th April 10:18
I'm still of the opinion that technology will advance so that you mainly charge at home and then for a long runs either
1. Charge up at an expensive motorway "charge station"
2. Go and get it at the local supermarket for cheap, or if you have a £50 spend in store, get it for free.
That is how the UK is doing with petrol and diesel so far, don'rt see the problem moving that over to battery or indeed hydrogen.
Supermarkets are the future of charging outside your home.
It's a no brainer.
1. Charge up at an expensive motorway "charge station"
2. Go and get it at the local supermarket for cheap, or if you have a £50 spend in store, get it for free.
That is how the UK is doing with petrol and diesel so far, don'rt see the problem moving that over to battery or indeed hydrogen.
Supermarkets are the future of charging outside your home.
It's a no brainer.
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