Mini electric question - Range
Discussion
Hi all,
I am contemplating an EV as my next motor. I currently do 4 miles a day but need the option of doing a 52 mile round trip to Manchester and back if I want to give the train a miss. This journey by car can sometimes take 90+ mins but is usually an hour each way if I set off at the correct time.
Taking into account the Mini's 140 mile claimed range and the fact that this is likely much lower, do we think a full charge would be 'safe' to get there and back in the worst possible conditions? ie -5 degrees, rain and traffic?
The journey as about 15 miles of motorway driving out of the 26 mile leg.
I realize this car has been on the market 5 minutes and not many people own one yet but any advice would be appreciated! If this is the same as the i3 then maybe some of you have experience of that vehicle?
At 25k for the base spec these are pretty cheap in my opinion and quick too.
Cheers!
Ed
I am contemplating an EV as my next motor. I currently do 4 miles a day but need the option of doing a 52 mile round trip to Manchester and back if I want to give the train a miss. This journey by car can sometimes take 90+ mins but is usually an hour each way if I set off at the correct time.
Taking into account the Mini's 140 mile claimed range and the fact that this is likely much lower, do we think a full charge would be 'safe' to get there and back in the worst possible conditions? ie -5 degrees, rain and traffic?
The journey as about 15 miles of motorway driving out of the 26 mile leg.
I realize this car has been on the market 5 minutes and not many people own one yet but any advice would be appreciated! If this is the same as the i3 then maybe some of you have experience of that vehicle?
At 25k for the base spec these are pretty cheap in my opinion and quick too.
Cheers!
Ed
Real world range 125 miles. Worst case scenario 100 miles. So yes, you’d be absolutely fine.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mini/electric
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mini/electric
£25k would get you into a Zoe or a Peugeot e208 with significantly more range. However, reviews suggest the Mini is better to drive, and your 52 mile trip should be absolutely fine for any new EV on the market (and many older ones), so if you know that's the limit of how far you will want to go then you've a choice of a lot of cars.
I had a leaf, claimed range 120 or so
I never had an issue hitting 75%/90 miles in average ambient temperatures but remember when it's cold and you need the a/c on full and the battery is cold you'll be pushing about 60/65%, then worse again if you have a heavy foot.
Overall, you learn to drive the car and you'll comfortably hit 75% and love the car, I want to go back to electric.
I never had an issue hitting 75%/90 miles in average ambient temperatures but remember when it's cold and you need the a/c on full and the battery is cold you'll be pushing about 60/65%, then worse again if you have a heavy foot.
Overall, you learn to drive the car and you'll comfortably hit 75% and love the car, I want to go back to electric.
I have had mine since 2nd March and clearly have not done that much driving since then, a grand total of 420 miles, but on average when fully charged we get an estimated 100 miles or so.
We live in hilly West Yorkshire and whilst we don't drive particularly fast, we don't drive particularly slowly in order to increase range and we leave the climate control on all the time.
For what we want/need it is perfect as there are only two of us, most trips are only 5-10 miles and even in normal times assuming we get back to anything like that, we only did 100 miles or so in an average week, so a nightly charge would not even be needed. We have a Skoda Fabia if we need to go further.
If you want a quality small car, easy to drive and park, but also with the ability to smile on your face if you are going down a country road, then this ticks all the boxes.
We live in hilly West Yorkshire and whilst we don't drive particularly fast, we don't drive particularly slowly in order to increase range and we leave the climate control on all the time.
For what we want/need it is perfect as there are only two of us, most trips are only 5-10 miles and even in normal times assuming we get back to anything like that, we only did 100 miles or so in an average week, so a nightly charge would not even be needed. We have a Skoda Fabia if we need to go further.
If you want a quality small car, easy to drive and park, but also with the ability to smile on your face if you are going down a country road, then this ticks all the boxes.
I've ordered one on the strength of the appeal of the car and despite its limited range. Like any car, if you are reasonably confident that it will meet your needs then it probably will.
Ours is being bought as an urban runabout that ticks all the boxes for me (fun, compact, distinctive) and my wife (eco-minded, easy to park). I had misgivings about longer trips on business and to see our parents with our kids on board, but this is respectively something that can be overcome through other solutions and it's we have our van for. Not to mention that most of the trips are within the range of the Mini anyway!
We have a public rapid charger nearby and decent access - pre-Corona - outside our terraced house, for domestic 3-pin plug charging. Enough of our neighbours are now doing this to overcome my early adopter fears.
I agree with earlier comments that, certainly in Level 1 and 2 form, this is a very well-priced and characterful EV
Ours is being bought as an urban runabout that ticks all the boxes for me (fun, compact, distinctive) and my wife (eco-minded, easy to park). I had misgivings about longer trips on business and to see our parents with our kids on board, but this is respectively something that can be overcome through other solutions and it's we have our van for. Not to mention that most of the trips are within the range of the Mini anyway!
We have a public rapid charger nearby and decent access - pre-Corona - outside our terraced house, for domestic 3-pin plug charging. Enough of our neighbours are now doing this to overcome my early adopter fears.
I agree with earlier comments that, certainly in Level 1 and 2 form, this is a very well-priced and characterful EV
SWoll said:
If it's anything like our previous i3 then the worst case will be more like 80 miles, but as you say absolutely fine for the required journey.
I had an i3 with this battery covered 80k miles.Lows were c.100 miles but highs were c. 135 miles .
Ultimately this out me off the mini as it won't be as efficient as the purpose built i3
If price was the issue he could just get a Leaf 40.
You will have no trouble doing a 50 or even 100 mile round trip, even in winter. What people forget is that if you find yourself struggling to have enough range you can just slow down a bit. 5 or 10 mph will massively extend your range and over 100 miles will cost you only a few minutes.
Well, 50 miles will never be a problem in that car. 100, maybe in bad weather in the winter you might want to do 65 to give yourself a buffer.
You will have no trouble doing a 50 or even 100 mile round trip, even in winter. What people forget is that if you find yourself struggling to have enough range you can just slow down a bit. 5 or 10 mph will massively extend your range and over 100 miles will cost you only a few minutes.
Well, 50 miles will never be a problem in that car. 100, maybe in bad weather in the winter you might want to do 65 to give yourself a buffer.
modeller said:
jjwilde said:
Maybe he cares about local air and not money?
etc. etc.
Also where can you get a Cooper S for £15k?? More like £25k (if similar spec to the mini-e) ... and therefore it'll be more expensive over a few years. etc. etc.
Bjorn has tested it and surprisingly found its quite efficient..
https://youtu.be/npoMLa8tPy8
224 km at the 90kph test
https://youtu.be/npoMLa8tPy8
224 km at the 90kph test
I've been running a long-term MINI Electric for 5 months now (it goes back on Thursday) and whilst I love the drive of it, I can't get 100 miles out of a charge. I took it from my house in Surrey to MB UK in Milton Keynes a couple of weeks ago to drive the Smart EQ, and thats a journey of 67 miles each way. I was grateful to Mercedes Press team for charging it for me for my return!
That said, I adore the car, and I will miss it when it goes back. For blasting around locally, there is little in the way of small EVs that can touch it (haven't driven the Honda e yet mind you) and unless you really wanted a manual box, or you did longer journeys regularly, I'm not sure why you'd buy a new petrol Cooper S over the Electric. It really is that good. My long-term review will be up on YouTube soon, but the gist is, if you can live with the range, the car is excellent.
That said, I adore the car, and I will miss it when it goes back. For blasting around locally, there is little in the way of small EVs that can touch it (haven't driven the Honda e yet mind you) and unless you really wanted a manual box, or you did longer journeys regularly, I'm not sure why you'd buy a new petrol Cooper S over the Electric. It really is that good. My long-term review will be up on YouTube soon, but the gist is, if you can live with the range, the car is excellent.
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