What percentage of new cars registered were EVs?
What percentage of new cars registered were EVs?
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anonymous-user

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76 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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According to this report by The International Council on Clean Transportation

https://theicct.org/publications/market-monitor-eu...


EVLATECOMER

164 posts

99 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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I think those figures include plug in hybrids?

SMMT data for December 2020 shows:

16.5% were EV (will include a load of Tesla model 3)
6.9% we plug in hyrbrids

off_again

13,917 posts

256 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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Yeah, those numbers dont make a lot of sense. Even reading the document doesnt really make it that clear. I am sure there is something that I am missing though is some missing context.

Not quite the same thing and its by brand from what I can find (all of the EV market stuff was super biased), but Tesla (100% EV vehicle sales) has just under 54% of the total US market and that makes up 1.13% of total sales in the US market.

https://evadoption.com/ev-sales/evs-percent-of-veh...

Makes interesting reading, since that shows that Tesla has more market share than Porsche, Land Rover and even Cadillac and Chrysler!!! I am sure there are some numbers around though.


TheRainMaker

7,525 posts

264 months

Thursday 4th February 2021
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Those figures are nothing like the SMMT ones for the UK.

BEV sales

December 2020 16.5%
December 2019 3.3%

2020 BEV Mkt share 6.6%

ZesPak

25,996 posts

218 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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What almost all these numbers have in common thought is that they have risen enormously in 2020, and that trend will most likely continue.

TheRainMaker

7,525 posts

264 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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I would think the end of 2021 we should see between a 10-15% market share.

2019 1.6%
2020 6.6%
2021 ???




ZesPak

25,996 posts

218 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Is there any reason why December was that high? Maybe some new (less favourable) regulations that came into play in January?

TheRainMaker

7,525 posts

264 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Not sure, Tesla had a very good month selling 6400 compared to only 623 last month.

EV sales for December were 21,914 which was almost 24% of the total EV yearly sales.

Tesla one is easy to answer as they were very open about pushing year-end sales, the others I have no idea,


JonChalk

6,469 posts

132 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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TheRainMaker

7,525 posts

264 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Just add, I’m talking about UK numbers thumbup

kambites

70,441 posts

243 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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ZesPak said:
Is there any reason why December was that high? Maybe some new (less favourable) regulations that came into play in January?
A combination of two things I think:

1) Most dealers were closed, meaning that Tesla's dealerless approach allowed them to continue selling where other manufacturers couldn't.
2) The ID3 was just coming onstream and VAG were shipping as many as they could produce to fulfill pre-orders.

sjg

7,639 posts

287 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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ZesPak said:
Is there any reason why December was that high? Maybe some new (less favourable) regulations that came into play in January?
Fleet average CO2. Anyone who could get EVs registered in December did, to reduce the size of their fines. 95 euros per car per gram over.

Because manufacturers can "pool" their sales for averages (Tesla with FCA for example) even manufacturers under the fleet CO2 needed to get lots of EVs moved to balance out their pool partners.

VW are even more of an extreme case because they'd been manufacturing the ID3 for a while but were storing loads of them due to software issues. They needed to get them sold, hence a hurried load of software and shipping them out. In the UK they were doing some very aggressive discounting to get ID3s sold in December - what's left got pre-registered and is now hanging around in dealers but still at a discount. They might get a fully functional software release soon.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

132 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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sjg said:
Some of them might get a fully functional software release soon.
FTFY.....some of them have that already.

Agree with the rest though.

Jan/Feb/Mar data will be interesting to see if the trend continues.

ZesPak

25,996 posts

218 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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sjg said:
Fleet average CO2. Anyone who could get EVs registered in December did, to reduce the size of their fines. 95 euros per car per gram over.
yes That's incentive to sell though, not to buy en masse.

I was asking because we see similar upticks when regulations are announced, such as what happened with the I-Pace end 2018.
The I-Pace on it's own actually made Jaguar the best selling brand for a month hehe. The reason for it was that a lot of the incentives towards EV's changed for cars >50k EUR, and the I-Pace was brand new so everyone wanted one, but it had to be in 2018.

JD

3,085 posts

250 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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ZesPak said:
Is there any reason why December was that high? Maybe some new (less favourable) regulations that came into play in January?
Dealers had to register as many EV as possible to stand a chance to meet the pooled 2020 emissions regs, so they did just that.

ZesPak

25,996 posts

218 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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JD said:
Dealers had to register as many EV as possible to stand a chance to meet the pooled 2020 emissions regs, so they did just that.
So these weren't end customer sales?
I thought Tesla at least only reported cars delivered?

Wiltshire Lad

307 posts

91 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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ZesPak said:
JD said:
Dealers had to register as many EV as possible to stand a chance to meet the pooled 2020 emissions regs, so they did just that.
So these weren't end customer sales?
I thought Tesla at least only reported cars delivered?
There will be a fair few customer sales in there and especially company car drivers. 2021 will see a huge shift away from diesel to hybrids and EVs. A company car driver with a 2 litre diesel and free fuel will currently pay between £6 - 8.5k in tax each year for the privilege. Move to a hybrid - half that. Go fully EV - pay nothing. It’s a no brainer. Companies get to shout about their carbon footprint and give their employees a pay rise which costs them nothing. And I’m not speculating- just ordered my 530e to replace A6 diesel. As have half my colleagues...

JD

3,085 posts

250 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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ZesPak said:
So these weren't end customer sales?
I thought Tesla at least only reported cars delivered?
In the UK the data is cars "registered" the data is not from the manufacturers.

When you have a big dealer network you can pre-register cars to then sell (at discount) later.