Alternative ways to access BIK?
Alternative ways to access BIK?
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thr32

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115 posts

162 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Afternoon all,

I suspect I know the answer to this, but the launch of the Taycan Cross Turismo has made me Mamba Green with envy once again...

Clearly a huge driver of BEV adoption is the 1-2% Benefit-in-Kind rate. While self-employed people, and employees whose employer would offer a car using salary sacrifice, can benefit, there isn’t any way for a plain-vanilla employee to get a similar advantage, is there?

Thanks all - good weekend

TH

Hfs1889

60 posts

78 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Depending on the size of the business it might be worth asking about the option of salary sacrifice. We offer company cars to our managers but I’d not be averse to offering salary sacrifice on EV’s through the business if they wanted a 2nd car for example. I just wouldn’t offer it as it’s hassle for me if they ask as I’d have to sort it.

aestetix1

873 posts

73 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Sorry, it's just a Tory scam, not designed to help ordinary people.

Heres Johnny

8,013 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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aestetix1 said:
Sorry, it's just a Tory scam, not designed to help ordinary people.
I guess that’s why so many nhs workers are doing it.

gangzoom

7,948 posts

237 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Heres Johnny said:
I guess that’s why so many nhs workers are doing it.
NHS employees taking salary sacrifice actually save the government ££££ in future pension costs and the trust ££££ in NI and employer pension costs.

Our trust would love everyone to be taking up every single salary sacrifice option, its advertised all over the intranet with zero information on pension implications, its not been done out of care for employees.

Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 6th March 10:33

EVLATECOMER

164 posts

99 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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aestetix1 said:
Sorry, it's just a Tory scam, not designed to help ordinary people.
Yeah, Alistair Darling a true blue tory.....

Heres Johnny

8,013 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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gangzoom said:
NHS employees taking salary sacrifice actually save the government ££££ in future pension costs and the trust ££££ in NI and employer pension costs.

Our trust would love everyone to be taking up every single salary sacrifice option, its advertised all over the intranet with zero information on pension implications, its not been done out of care for employees.

Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 6th March 10:33
Not strictly true is it, individuals circumstances dictate tax potential liabilities respect to pensions, and the salary sacrifice benefits for the employer are the same irrespective of industry when it comes to NI and other savings, but irrespective it’s open to NHS employees and not just people with their own company or are executives. If you want to pick a fight with the gov over the pay offer do it in an appropriate thread.

gangzoom

7,948 posts

237 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Heres Johnny said:
If you want to pick a fight with the gov over the pay offer do it in an appropriate thread.
Did I say that? But the NHS pension is probably the best of the NHS pay deals, and I have no fight to pick about that for anyone, if anything its far too generous, even now with career average payout the figures are simply crazy.

Most of you guys clued up on tax and BIK are making fully informed decisions on pension implications of going for a 'cheap' EV deal, but that isn't true in NHS lease schemes. There is barely any mention of pension implications, and you can 'sign up' in a few mouse clicks with no discussion or information on the true cost of the deal over the life time your employment/pension pay out.


Edited by gangzoom on Saturday 6th March 12:52

andyeds1234

2,468 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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aestetix1 said:
Sorry, it's just a Tory scam, not designed to help ordinary people.
Maybe fk off to the politics thread?

thr32

Original Poster:

115 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Well - THAT didn’t turn out quite how I expected...! My employer has 25,000 staff in the UK, but hasn’t done the admin to put this in place... I hope they do before the window of advantage closes

TH

aestetix1

873 posts

73 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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andyeds1234 said:
Maybe fk off to the politics thread?
Maybe fk off to your own thread?

buggalugs

9,259 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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aestetix1 said:
Sorry, it's just a Tory scam, not designed to help ordinary people.
Oh look, a facebook leftie, lost in the EV forum

oop north

1,649 posts

150 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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thr32 said:
While self-employed people, and employees whose employer would offer a car using salary sacrifice, can benefit, there isn’t any way for a plain-vanilla employee to get a similar advantage, is there?

Thanks all - good weekend

TH
Just a quick point for accuracy - self employed cannot benefit, unless they are self employed through their own company. Slightly oddly there is I think no benefit at all to self employed (ie, sole traders and partners) from an EV other than speed of depreciation allowance (capital allowance). Whereas through a company there is huge benefit

aestetix1

873 posts

73 months

Monday 8th March 2021
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buggalugs said:
Oh look, a facebook leftie, lost in the EV forum
I don't have a Facebook account, last time I looked that site if full of Tories.