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I have recently received my new LR Evoque P300e and whilst i am very pleased with the performance and drive quality, i am confused by the 'alleged' range after charging. After plugging it in to an outdoor socket using a Tesla 3-pin charge lead (girlfriend has a Tesla and has a Pod Point charger at her house so doesn't use her 3-pin lead and LR want £300 for a 3-pin lead as my Evoque was only supplied with a Type 2 plug lead), it appears to be showing a range of 24miles when claiming to be 'fully charged'. Could using a non LR lead affect the amount of charge the battery will take?
Most manufacturers' range is as accurate as their mpg figure
Most owners cannot comprehend that the figure is not absolute - it is calculated and varies according to many factors including ambient temperature, car mode, recent use pattern & how many 'toys' are turned on as well as probably the phase of the moon
Most owners cannot comprehend that the figure is not absolute - it is calculated and varies according to many factors including ambient temperature, car mode, recent use pattern & how many 'toys' are turned on as well as probably the phase of the moon
As long as the car is happy to talk to the EVSE (3 pin lead) you use, then the only possible differences between one brand and another could be the rate it charges at. The car controls charging, if it says it’s at 100%, it’s at 100% (of usable capacity).
As said, actual range vs estimated range (and stated range) is a complex and invariably disappointing calculation. The car will probably do the claimed range, under the perfect conditions it was tested under, but not many of us can drive like that in real life.
If it achieves 60% of published range that’s probably about as good as you can hope for. Just wait until the depths of winter for real disappointment!
(All the above based on my ownership of a C350e from new)
As said, actual range vs estimated range (and stated range) is a complex and invariably disappointing calculation. The car will probably do the claimed range, under the perfect conditions it was tested under, but not many of us can drive like that in real life.
If it achieves 60% of published range that’s probably about as good as you can hope for. Just wait until the depths of winter for real disappointment!
(All the above based on my ownership of a C350e from new)
It’s a guess based on your previous usage.
PHEVs tend to have inefficient heaters, and it’s still cold so you’ll be using a fair bit of battery just heating the cabin. It helps if you can precondition while it’s still plugged in, but it still uses quite a bit to maintain it.
Warmer weather and gentler driving and you should see nearer the claimed range.
PHEVs tend to have inefficient heaters, and it’s still cold so you’ll be using a fair bit of battery just heating the cabin. It helps if you can precondition while it’s still plugged in, but it still uses quite a bit to maintain it.
Warmer weather and gentler driving and you should see nearer the claimed range.
Have I been misreading the OP - but a range of just 24 miles - somehow don;t think that's 60% of expected 
Most EVs have a mechanism to reset the predicted range to default based on percentage charge - think you need to do that, range will drop again as you star driving but it should go to higher than expected and then drop to more reasonable levels. As others have said, the guessometer is based upon your recent driving , so hooning the car around country lanes at -20 will result in a very lo range, driving like the eponymous Miss Daisy at the height of summer will probably produce figures higher than the manufacture was optimistically claiming.
Most EVs have a mechanism to reset the predicted range to default based on percentage charge - think you need to do that, range will drop again as you star driving but it should go to higher than expected and then drop to more reasonable levels. As others have said, the guessometer is based upon your recent driving , so hooning the car around country lanes at -20 will result in a very lo range, driving like the eponymous Miss Daisy at the height of summer will probably produce figures higher than the manufacture was optimistically claiming.
dapprman said:
Have I been misreading the OP - but a range of just 24 miles - somehow don;t think that's 60% of expected
Most EVs have a mechanism to reset the predicted range to default based on percentage charge - think you need to do that, range will drop again as you star driving but it should go to higher than expected and then drop to more reasonable levels. As others have said, the guessometer is based upon your recent driving , so hooning the car around country lanes at -20 will result in a very lo range, driving like the eponymous Miss Daisy at the height of summer will probably produce figures higher than the manufacture was optimistically claiming.
Yes you have misread, the P300e is a PHEV not a BEV, it was a 15kWh battery and an official range of 41miles on electric only.Most EVs have a mechanism to reset the predicted range to default based on percentage charge - think you need to do that, range will drop again as you star driving but it should go to higher than expected and then drop to more reasonable levels. As others have said, the guessometer is based upon your recent driving , so hooning the car around country lanes at -20 will result in a very lo range, driving like the eponymous Miss Daisy at the height of summer will probably produce figures higher than the manufacture was optimistically claiming.
I have the RRS P400e and I'm not far off that now it's a bit warmer (vs claimed 30 mile range).
When it was really cold last month the range was far lower, and it wouldn't stay in EV mode. However, now it's warmer, it seems to be pretty much back to normal. Last summer when it was really warm, I was getting to work and back twice comfortably on one charge in EV mode, so around 24 miles without the engine cutting in once (although through town so max speed 40mph).
The heater and heated seats make a big difference to the battery, if you've got both seats on and the heater full blast you'll lose a lot of range. I use the preheat on the app quite a lot whilst the car is plugged in so I'm not wasting range trying to heat/demist the car in the morning.
When it was really cold last month the range was far lower, and it wouldn't stay in EV mode. However, now it's warmer, it seems to be pretty much back to normal. Last summer when it was really warm, I was getting to work and back twice comfortably on one charge in EV mode, so around 24 miles without the engine cutting in once (although through town so max speed 40mph).
The heater and heated seats make a big difference to the battery, if you've got both seats on and the heater full blast you'll lose a lot of range. I use the preheat on the app quite a lot whilst the car is plugged in so I'm not wasting range trying to heat/demist the car in the morning.
dapprman said:
J1990 said:
Yes you have misread, the P300e is a PHEV not a BEV, it was a 15kWh battery and an official range of 41miles on electric only.
Ah 
OP as others have said it's cold so you won't get close to that range especially if you're not pre heating the cabin before you leave in the mornings.
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