What car - yawn
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Currently drive a 3.6 Subaru Outback. Its a great load lugger but It’s fuel bill is ridiculous and is annoying me.
The Mrs mostly uses it to go to the shops.
Occasional 400mile drive to visit family.
We go camping and mountain biking.
I cycle to work mostly. Also have motorbikes.
I find owning one car preferable as having another 15k sat on the drive annoys me.
I’ve been recently looking at spending 15ish k on:
Golf GTE.
Mitsubishi Outlander phev.
Kia Niro phev.
Golf looks nice, but the roof bar situation looks like it needs those wrap around the door frame bars which I’m not a fan of and I’m not sure it’ll be big enough.
Outlander looks great, however one of the outback’s downsides is it handles like an oil tanker which neither I nor the Mrs care for.
The Niro looks good. 7 year warranty, enough gadgets, roof rails, not too big and not too small. It’s a bit uninspiring but ticks the most boxes.
Have I missed anything? Open to left field options (8k on a leaf and 5k on an Octavia estate?!).
I would really like to get into a full ev but just can’t achieve it on 15k. I could increase the budget...but don’t want to. Nothing electric seems to fit the bill that won’t result in 1.5hrs sat waiting to charge it on the 400 mile journey.
Cheers
The Mrs mostly uses it to go to the shops.
Occasional 400mile drive to visit family.
We go camping and mountain biking.
I cycle to work mostly. Also have motorbikes.
I find owning one car preferable as having another 15k sat on the drive annoys me.
I’ve been recently looking at spending 15ish k on:
Golf GTE.
Mitsubishi Outlander phev.
Kia Niro phev.
Golf looks nice, but the roof bar situation looks like it needs those wrap around the door frame bars which I’m not a fan of and I’m not sure it’ll be big enough.
Outlander looks great, however one of the outback’s downsides is it handles like an oil tanker which neither I nor the Mrs care for.
The Niro looks good. 7 year warranty, enough gadgets, roof rails, not too big and not too small. It’s a bit uninspiring but ticks the most boxes.
Have I missed anything? Open to left field options (8k on a leaf and 5k on an Octavia estate?!).
I would really like to get into a full ev but just can’t achieve it on 15k. I could increase the budget...but don’t want to. Nothing electric seems to fit the bill that won’t result in 1.5hrs sat waiting to charge it on the 400 mile journey.
Cheers
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 19th April 08:05
The 3.6 is a pretty rare car, if it's anything like the Legacy/Foresters I've had they're solid and reliable but not great on fuel.
I suppose the question is, how much is it worth, and how much fuel would 15k buy you?
I'm honestly not sure I'd switch if I were you, but I suppose the car tax could be 5-600 a year on top of the fuel.
How about an Auris estate hybrid, or for more ££ the newer Corolla sportyback thing - I drove one and was very impressed.
Same as a Prius underneath.
I suppose the question is, how much is it worth, and how much fuel would 15k buy you?
I'm honestly not sure I'd switch if I were you, but I suppose the car tax could be 5-600 a year on top of the fuel.
How about an Auris estate hybrid, or for more ££ the newer Corolla sportyback thing - I drove one and was very impressed.
Same as a Prius underneath.
Heres Johnny said:
BMW i3 rex - 94ah if you can get one. 100miles plus on electric and the rex gives you another 100 if you need it and can of course be topped up if you have to.
4 miles to a kwh and even on a 16p kwh tariff thats 4p a mile which is cheap as chips.
Have you posted in the right thread? Great car but surely nowhere near practical enough for the OP's requirements?4 miles to a kwh and even on a 16p kwh tariff thats 4p a mile which is cheap as chips.
Passat GTE? It's certainly practical and can be found in budget, although probably not an exciting drive.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103250...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103250...
Edited by nd0000 on Sunday 18th April 18:23
I'd include the Ioniq as well as the Niro. Same underpinnings, Ioniq has an arguably more useful boot (longer and wider vs the slightly taller Niro, and in the hybrids slightly larger overall volume, although the Niro EV is a bit better in that respect), and has slightly better performance and economy as a result of a more aerodynamically efficient shape.
Prior to the Ioniq I had an Auris hybrid, they're a perfectly decent car, and the estate is exceedingly practical. Newer Corolla looks nicer (haven't driven one though), and has a more potent 2l hybrid available, although I don't think there's a plug in option.
Golf GTE hatch has a comically small boot, similar volume to a Fiesta, and I don't think they ever offered it as an estate. Plus it's unlikely to be as trouble-free as the Japanese/Korean cars. But is undoubtedly a more sporting drive.
Prior to the Ioniq I had an Auris hybrid, they're a perfectly decent car, and the estate is exceedingly practical. Newer Corolla looks nicer (haven't driven one though), and has a more potent 2l hybrid available, although I don't think there's a plug in option.
Golf GTE hatch has a comically small boot, similar volume to a Fiesta, and I don't think they ever offered it as an estate. Plus it's unlikely to be as trouble-free as the Japanese/Korean cars. But is undoubtedly a more sporting drive.
Martyn76 said:
How about a Kia Soul EV? Bit quirky looking and a little smaller than the Niro but as with the other Kia EVs seems to be very efficient and good reviews, just the "quirky" looks to get past. Seem to be a fair few available around the £10k mark leaving you some cash over.
I’ll take a look. Range doesn’t look amazing. 50kw charger looks ok but not amazing. I feel like it’s in the same box as a 40kwh leaf; not ideal for longer journeys. Heres Johnny said:
BMW i3 rex - 94ah if you can get one. 100miles plus on electric and the rex gives you another 100 if you need it and can of course be topped up if you have to.
4 miles to a kwh and even on a 16p kwh tariff thats 4p a mile which is cheap as chips.
Defo too small. Thanks for the suggestion though. 4 miles to a kwh and even on a 16p kwh tariff thats 4p a mile which is cheap as chips.
andy43 said:
The 3.6 is a pretty rare car, if it's anything like the Legacy/Foresters I've had they're solid and reliable but not great on fuel.
I suppose the question is, how much is it worth, and how much fuel would 15k buy you?
I'm honestly not sure I'd switch if I were you, but I suppose the car tax could be 5-600 a year on top of the fuel.
How about an Auris estate hybrid, or for more ££ the newer Corolla sportyback thing - I drove one and was very impressed.
Same as a Prius underneath.
I should have added, I own the outback in New Zealand. I’m selling it and moving back to the U.K. there’s not a chance I’d run a 3.6 outback in the U.K!I suppose the question is, how much is it worth, and how much fuel would 15k buy you?
I'm honestly not sure I'd switch if I were you, but I suppose the car tax could be 5-600 a year on top of the fuel.
How about an Auris estate hybrid, or for more ££ the newer Corolla sportyback thing - I drove one and was very impressed.
Same as a Prius underneath.
I’ll take a look at the Toyotas. Thanks
nd0000 said:
Passat GTE? It's certainly practical and can be found in budget, although probably not an exciting drive.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103250...
Yeah the Passat should be on the list. The wife isn’t a massive fan of estates but I think it fits the bill. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202103250...
Edited by nd0000 on Sunday 18th April 18:23
Jonny_ said:
I'd include the Ioniq as well as the Niro. Same underpinnings, Ioniq has an arguably more useful boot (longer and wider vs the slightly taller Niro, and in the hybrids slightly larger overall volume, although the Niro EV is a bit better in that respect), and has slightly better performance and economy as a result of a more aerodynamically efficient shape.
Prior to the Ioniq I had an Auris hybrid, they're a perfectly decent car, and the estate is exceedingly practical. Newer Corolla looks nicer (haven't driven one though), and has a more potent 2l hybrid available, although I don't think there's a plug in option.
Golf GTE hatch has a comically small boot, similar volume to a Fiesta, and I don't think they ever offered it as an estate. Plus it's unlikely to be as trouble-free as the Japanese/Korean cars. But is undoubtedly a more sporting drive.
Ioniq looks ok. Think I’d prefer the Niro looks wise.Prior to the Ioniq I had an Auris hybrid, they're a perfectly decent car, and the estate is exceedingly practical. Newer Corolla looks nicer (haven't driven one though), and has a more potent 2l hybrid available, although I don't think there's a plug in option.
Golf GTE hatch has a comically small boot, similar volume to a Fiesta, and I don't think they ever offered it as an estate. Plus it's unlikely to be as trouble-free as the Japanese/Korean cars. But is undoubtedly a more sporting drive.
Can’t find the Auris as a plug in.
Noted on the gte.
So:
Possibles
Kia Niro or Ioniq
Passat gte
Outlander phev.
Left field
Kia Soul.
Out
530e too expensive.
Merc...is a merc.
Golf too small.
Any other ideas? I quite like the Kia Soul shout, but think we’d need another car for the longer journeys.
Possibles
Kia Niro or Ioniq
Passat gte
Outlander phev.
Left field
Kia Soul.
Out
530e too expensive.
Merc...is a merc.
Golf too small.
Any other ideas? I quite like the Kia Soul shout, but think we’d need another car for the longer journeys.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 19th April 08:04
PHEV electric only range at you budget is going to be crap surely, and are you going to bother charging it every day?
You could half your fuel bill with a more efficient pure ICE car and have masses of choice at £15k? Don't think id bother with PHEV personally, their purpose seems to be as a BIK saving tool for company car drivers more than anything else, and just more complex so more to go wrong on a used car and heavier so worse MPG when not running in EV mode on those long trips.
You could half your fuel bill with a more efficient pure ICE car and have masses of choice at £15k? Don't think id bother with PHEV personally, their purpose seems to be as a BIK saving tool for company car drivers more than anything else, and just more complex so more to go wrong on a used car and heavier so worse MPG when not running in EV mode on those long trips.
Edited by SWoll on Monday 19th April 08:21
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