Audi Q5 Hybrid - 100mpg hit
Discussion
So I bought this last July for 2 reasons 1. the E63 AMG stage 1 tuned sleeper was taking me to dark places just like "Christine" and it drank fuel like a jet fighter 2. I went through 3 tyres in 2 weeks due to the state of the roads in this country!!
It was bought because I wanted to move towards electric but wasn't ready to commit to full electric due to range and recharging concerns especially as whatever I bought needed to do a 3 week tour to the top of Norway and back (meant to be this year will now be 2022). A hybrid seemed a good trade off especially as the bulk of my journeys are within 40-50 miles round trip.
This week saw me tip over the 100mpg mark after 8400 miles of ownership
So the report on my last 1000 miles shows 70% were pure electric trips and I think that is pretty much representative of the 8400 miles. I have done a number of 200mile round trips during the last year and these have returned figures in the mid 40's mpg still twice what the AMG did driving sensibly AND still on the same set of tyres
Cost per mile in petrol is 5.7p and in electric is 0.034p
Happy so far with the car BUT have been disappointed with the tech levels for the cost. ie no blind spot warnings, no adaptive cruise control, EV mode selection is not on the steering wheel but hidden on the main console, no electric seat memory and the centre console is weird in that when you pull the arm rest forward you can't get your drinks out from the holders and the storage below arm rest is very limited. Lesson learnt on what to put on the checklist in 2 years time when I am hunting for its replacement
It was bought because I wanted to move towards electric but wasn't ready to commit to full electric due to range and recharging concerns especially as whatever I bought needed to do a 3 week tour to the top of Norway and back (meant to be this year will now be 2022). A hybrid seemed a good trade off especially as the bulk of my journeys are within 40-50 miles round trip.
This week saw me tip over the 100mpg mark after 8400 miles of ownership
So the report on my last 1000 miles shows 70% were pure electric trips and I think that is pretty much representative of the 8400 miles. I have done a number of 200mile round trips during the last year and these have returned figures in the mid 40's mpg still twice what the AMG did driving sensibly AND still on the same set of tyres
Cost per mile in petrol is 5.7p and in electric is 0.034p
Happy so far with the car BUT have been disappointed with the tech levels for the cost. ie no blind spot warnings, no adaptive cruise control, EV mode selection is not on the steering wheel but hidden on the main console, no electric seat memory and the centre console is weird in that when you pull the arm rest forward you can't get your drinks out from the holders and the storage below arm rest is very limited. Lesson learnt on what to put on the checklist in 2 years time when I am hunting for its replacement
Just a hunch but your cost in electric is probably out, maybe by a factor of 100. The cost you’ve quoted is next to nothing, whereas a pure EV would struggle to get below 5p a mile unless they were running on some super over night eco tariff or freeloading off their own solar. When we had an i8 it was about 6p in electricity cost (hybrids aren’t that efficient compared to pure EVs) and 80mpg in petrol.
I'd partially agree with Here's Johnny, unless you're running Agile Octopus and getting some of those negative price kWh overnight...
I get a 5p/kWh overnight tariff. On the i3 I'm getting 6.5m/kWh, so that's 0.77p/mile, which is 2000% more in cost than 0.03p/mile.
Still, good to see 100MPGe in an hybrid
Awesome.
I get a 5p/kWh overnight tariff. On the i3 I'm getting 6.5m/kWh, so that's 0.77p/mile, which is 2000% more in cost than 0.03p/mile.
Still, good to see 100MPGe in an hybrid
Awesome.caseys said:
I'd partially agree with Here's Johnny, unless you're running Agile Octopus and getting some of those negative price kWh overnight...
I get a 5p/kWh overnight tariff. On the i3 I'm getting 6.5m/kWh, so that's 0.77p/mile, which is 2000% more in cost than 0.03p/mile.
Still, good to see 100MPGe in an hybrid Awesome.
i suspect its £0.034I get a 5p/kWh overnight tariff. On the i3 I'm getting 6.5m/kWh, so that's 0.77p/mile, which is 2000% more in cost than 0.03p/mile.
Still, good to see 100MPGe in an hybrid
Awesome.would also need to include servicing costs
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Tuesday 27th April 16:00
Looks like I multiplied instead of divided so electricity is 4.6p per mile
And yes I agree the 100mpg and electric figures don't take into account each other so guess the overall figure is an average of the 2 which is still circa 5p per mile. Would be cheaper if I had an overnight rate on my electric supply so will have to look at that on my contract renewal as currently its based on 17p per kWh!
And yes I agree the 100mpg and electric figures don't take into account each other so guess the overall figure is an average of the 2 which is still circa 5p per mile. Would be cheaper if I had an overnight rate on my electric supply so will have to look at that on my contract renewal as currently its based on 17p per kWh!
AdyAMG said:
Looks like I multiplied instead of divided so electricity is 4.6p per mile
And yes I agree the 100mpg and electric figures don't take into account each other so guess the overall figure is an average of the 2 which is still circa 5p per mile. Would be cheaper if I had an overnight rate on my electric supply so will have to look at that on my contract renewal as currently its based on 17p per kWh!
I'm on Octopus Go and pay just under 14p peak and 5p cheap. 25p a day standing charge. I only have a small-battery hybrid but do have a Powerwall & PV so when the sun isn’t shining, I’m charging the Powerwall overnight to run the house during the rest of the day.And yes I agree the 100mpg and electric figures don't take into account each other so guess the overall figure is an average of the 2 which is still circa 5p per mile. Would be cheaper if I had an overnight rate on my electric supply so will have to look at that on my contract renewal as currently its based on 17p per kWh!
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Heres Johnny said:
Just a hunch but your cost in electric is probably out, maybe by a factor of 100. The cost you’ve quoted is next to nothing, whereas a pure EV would struggle to get below 5p a mile unless they were running on some super over night eco tariff or freeloading off their own solar. When we had an i8 it was about 6p in electricity cost (hybrids aren’t that efficient compared to pure EVs) and 80mpg in petrol.
I was about to say the same thing.Re the overnight tariffs though, surely anyone with an EV who does more than a run to the shops each week would be on an overnight tariff? I pay 14.5p/kWh day, and 5p/kWh overnight, which would get most EVs to close to 1p a mile to run. Seems a no brainer to me!
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