E-Golf to ID4 ?
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Has anyone switched from an E-Golf to a new ID4? I want to replace two cars with one and need a larger car for longer journeys and holidays. My E-Golf has been great and is a good driving car but I'm tempted by an ID4 and the potential of 250 mile + range. Has anyone actually got one? What have been your experiences and why should I just keep the Golf?
I have an ID.3 and was shocked at the size of the car, way bigger than i thought and i had read reviews about it being golf sized. I came from a 120d and although probably slightly smaller than the Golf it's a lot bigger.
It was in the VW dealer t'other day (pfff too many issues still) and parked next to an ID.4. TBH the ID.4 shell doesn't look that bigger but i guess the boot is.
Look at the ID.3 forums on SpeakEV (same car really) for info on issues but be prepared for some horror stories. Since v2.1 most cars are behaving better and i love mine. Acceleration is better than my 120d (standing and 40-60/50-70 but above that it's a little anemic) and it isn't a dull drive at all.
I've not had mine long and only charge to 80% so far but not seen anything near 208 miles (supposed 80% range). I do have a Cov to St Ives drive at the end of the month so can report back further then but far more views on SpeakEV.
Should you buy an ID.4? for the size difference YES. However it isn't bug free and you should be prepared for that. There is another update "coming" but who knows when.
It was in the VW dealer t'other day (pfff too many issues still) and parked next to an ID.4. TBH the ID.4 shell doesn't look that bigger but i guess the boot is.
Look at the ID.3 forums on SpeakEV (same car really) for info on issues but be prepared for some horror stories. Since v2.1 most cars are behaving better and i love mine. Acceleration is better than my 120d (standing and 40-60/50-70 but above that it's a little anemic) and it isn't a dull drive at all.
I've not had mine long and only charge to 80% so far but not seen anything near 208 miles (supposed 80% range). I do have a Cov to St Ives drive at the end of the month so can report back further then but far more views on SpeakEV.
Should you buy an ID.4? for the size difference YES. However it isn't bug free and you should be prepared for that. There is another update "coming" but who knows when.
Dave Hedgehog said:
golf 8 - 4284 * 1789
ID3 - 4261 * 1809
pretty similar foot prints
Footprint is somewhat irrelevant when comparing ICE vs BV platforms, unless looking at literal size for parking/narrow roads. I believe Skoda quote the Enyaq as being the same footprint as the Karoq but the same internal storage as the Kodiaq because of the way they can reposition the motor and other driving components to allow for more usable space.ID3 - 4261 * 1809
pretty similar foot prints
If it wasn't for the horror stories of the ID3/4 I think we would've been tempted to put one on the drive as a local/2nd car, I think I'll be holding off until things settle a little more with the bugs/gremlins.
Test drive both of them before you do.
Infotainment is annoying as hell
Brake pedal is dangerous in traffic.
The id.3 and 4 are bigger inside than the comparable Golf, the bonnet is shorter as a ground up EV as it doesn't need to account for an engine.
Would suggest looking at a Skoda Enyaq IV, which is bigger (same platform as Id.3/4) and has a better interior, and the base model is ~£10k cheaper than the ID.4.
Same crappy infotainment.
No idea if the brake pedal is the same.
Infotainment is annoying as hell
Brake pedal is dangerous in traffic.
The id.3 and 4 are bigger inside than the comparable Golf, the bonnet is shorter as a ground up EV as it doesn't need to account for an engine.
Would suggest looking at a Skoda Enyaq IV, which is bigger (same platform as Id.3/4) and has a better interior, and the base model is ~£10k cheaper than the ID.4.
Same crappy infotainment.
No idea if the brake pedal is the same.
annodomini2 said:
Test drive both of them before you do.
Infotainment is annoying as hell
Brake pedal is dangerous in traffic.
The id.3 and 4 are bigger inside than the comparable Golf, the bonnet is shorter as a ground up EV as it doesn't need to account for an engine.
Would suggest looking at a Skoda Enyaq IV, which is bigger (same platform as Id.3/4) and has a better interior, and the base model is ~£10k cheaper than the ID.4.
Same crappy infotainment.
No idea if the brake pedal is the same.
Agreed that the new VAG infotainment system is an absolute shocker, hard to believe that they actually signed it off in its current state.Infotainment is annoying as hell
Brake pedal is dangerous in traffic.
The id.3 and 4 are bigger inside than the comparable Golf, the bonnet is shorter as a ground up EV as it doesn't need to account for an engine.
Would suggest looking at a Skoda Enyaq IV, which is bigger (same platform as Id.3/4) and has a better interior, and the base model is ~£10k cheaper than the ID.4.
Same crappy infotainment.
No idea if the brake pedal is the same.
As for the Enyaq, until dealers can give indicative delivery dates I wouldn't be putting a penny down as a deposit. They seem to be suffering from the chip shortages and other members of the VAG group being given priority - Assuming the E-Tron GT et al.
I've been in the car for a month now and the infotainment is fine. I can access everything i need within seconds and control the heating/radio without any hassle. Even accessing some more complicated actions such as turning off the lane guidance is 3 touches.
You will read lots of reports of the system being "a nightmare" but once you understand the layout it is childs play and I'm 46. The wife, who is useless with tech and approaching 50, is also happy with the system (and she is the main driver).
The only really annoyance for me is the haptic buttons on the steering wheel as my normal hand position on tight bends usually results in my palms touching one of them and
You will read lots of reports of the system being "a nightmare" but once you understand the layout it is childs play and I'm 46. The wife, who is useless with tech and approaching 50, is also happy with the system (and she is the main driver).
The only really annoyance for me is the haptic buttons on the steering wheel as my normal hand position on tight bends usually results in my palms touching one of them and
I’ve had mine about 6 weeks and I disagree about the infotainment. You can get used to it but it’s a pain in the arse. I can operate it fairly swiftly, but it’s not pleasant to use at all. I got so sick of the three presses to disable lane assist (every time you use the car) that I just live with it now.
I have done about 200 miles in a new ID4 and I am impressed. Very low consumption and very smooth indeed. Seems to be much better quality than the ID3 I had out and better value. My biggest issue is the size and how it takes up much road - particularly noticeable on our smaller rural roads.
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