fossil fuels are indeed finished...
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Interesting developments indeed.
https://pushevs.com/2021/07/30/gac-aion-with-fast-...
Compared to the current fast-charging time of pure electric models, which takes 30 minutes to recharge to 80% of battery capacity, this graphene-based battery has a 6C fast charge capability, combined with a 600A high-power charger, can be recharged to 80% capacity in 8 minutes. The battery has also passed the most stringent safety test – Battery Shooting Test, possessing quality and reliability of the highest standard.
This graphene-based battery technology is an industry leader. It will significantly shorten charging time, as well as greatly extend battery life, solving the current“ pain points” of pure electric vehicles. The good news is that this battery technology has come out of the laboratory into real-world production. Aion V, the first vehicle model equipped with this graphene-based battery, has entered the mass production testing phase. It is poised to lead the electric vehicle industry into a new stage of development.
https://pushevs.com/2021/07/30/gac-aion-with-fast-...
Compared to the current fast-charging time of pure electric models, which takes 30 minutes to recharge to 80% of battery capacity, this graphene-based battery has a 6C fast charge capability, combined with a 600A high-power charger, can be recharged to 80% capacity in 8 minutes. The battery has also passed the most stringent safety test – Battery Shooting Test, possessing quality and reliability of the highest standard.
This graphene-based battery technology is an industry leader. It will significantly shorten charging time, as well as greatly extend battery life, solving the current“ pain points” of pure electric vehicles. The good news is that this battery technology has come out of the laboratory into real-world production. Aion V, the first vehicle model equipped with this graphene-based battery, has entered the mass production testing phase. It is poised to lead the electric vehicle industry into a new stage of development.
So you think the middle east will just give up its grip on the world without a whimper?
Provided demand stays strong for fuel, which it will, I don't see things changing too radically. Likewise it will be interesting to see what happens with synthetic fuel development.
Batteries, infrastructure and the fact manufacturers are still fighting over standards whilst producing cars that are locked in to yesterday's design choices (i.e a lack of modular battery compartments with expansion or upgrade) are precisely what will stand in the way of EV for years to come.
The only reason they're really selling is down to fleet/company cars and SME taking advantage of BIK.
Wake me up when they all agree on a standard and solid state batteries are the norm.
Provided demand stays strong for fuel, which it will, I don't see things changing too radically. Likewise it will be interesting to see what happens with synthetic fuel development.
Batteries, infrastructure and the fact manufacturers are still fighting over standards whilst producing cars that are locked in to yesterday's design choices (i.e a lack of modular battery compartments with expansion or upgrade) are precisely what will stand in the way of EV for years to come.
The only reason they're really selling is down to fleet/company cars and SME taking advantage of BIK.
Wake me up when they all agree on a standard and solid state batteries are the norm.
James-gbg1e said:
So you think the middle east will just give up its grip on the world without a whimper?
Provided demand stays strong for fuel, which it will, I don't see things changing too radically. Likewise it will be interesting to see what happens with synthetic fuel development.
Batteries, infrastructure and the fact manufacturers are still fighting over standards whilst producing cars that are locked in to yesterday's design choices (i.e a lack of modular battery compartments with expansion or upgrade) are precisely what will stand in the way of EV for years to come.
The only reason they're really selling is down to fleet/company cars and SME taking advantage of BIK.
Wake me up when they all agree on a standard and solid state batteries are the norm.
Someone else in denial! CCS/Type 2 are the charging standards in Europe - construction of battery doesn't matter. Provided demand stays strong for fuel, which it will, I don't see things changing too radically. Likewise it will be interesting to see what happens with synthetic fuel development.
Batteries, infrastructure and the fact manufacturers are still fighting over standards whilst producing cars that are locked in to yesterday's design choices (i.e a lack of modular battery compartments with expansion or upgrade) are precisely what will stand in the way of EV for years to come.
The only reason they're really selling is down to fleet/company cars and SME taking advantage of BIK.
Wake me up when they all agree on a standard and solid state batteries are the norm.
Yes, tax is influencing the market .. but BIK has been linked to CO2 emissions for years.
modeller said:
James-gbg1e said:
So you think the middle east will just give up its grip on the world without a whimper?
Provided demand stays strong for fuel, which it will, I don't see things changing too radically. Likewise it will be interesting to see what happens with synthetic fuel development.
Batteries, infrastructure and the fact manufacturers are still fighting over standards whilst producing cars that are locked in to yesterday's design choices (i.e a lack of modular battery compartments with expansion or upgrade) are precisely what will stand in the way of EV for years to come.
The only reason they're really selling is down to fleet/company cars and SME taking advantage of BIK.
Wake me up when they all agree on a standard and solid state batteries are the norm.
Someone else in denial! CCS/Type 2 are the charging standards in Europe - construction of battery doesn't matter. Provided demand stays strong for fuel, which it will, I don't see things changing too radically. Likewise it will be interesting to see what happens with synthetic fuel development.
Batteries, infrastructure and the fact manufacturers are still fighting over standards whilst producing cars that are locked in to yesterday's design choices (i.e a lack of modular battery compartments with expansion or upgrade) are precisely what will stand in the way of EV for years to come.
The only reason they're really selling is down to fleet/company cars and SME taking advantage of BIK.
Wake me up when they all agree on a standard and solid state batteries are the norm.
Yes, tax is influencing the market .. but BIK has been linked to CO2 emissions for years.
Construction of battery does matter, or don’t you understand it?
EV may well be the future for LGV, but HGV / Ships and aircraft will all still need fuel and it won’t be electricity.
We had an EQC and it didn’t work for us, I wish it would have.
Isn’t there a miraculous battery technology running in a lab somewhere announced about once a month or so? It’s great that there is research and potential solutions but let’s see what actually comes out the other end as something workable.
If there will be a big step up in energy density and cost in particular it’s not great news for anyone or any finance company that has spent big money on a car with the current battery tech. Mahoosive charging speed is probably less of an issue as the limitation is often the charger and not the car.
If there will be a big step up in energy density and cost in particular it’s not great news for anyone or any finance company that has spent big money on a car with the current battery tech. Mahoosive charging speed is probably less of an issue as the limitation is often the charger and not the car.
Chris32345 said:
Power generation technology can't keep up with those battery then if its true
So we will still be waiting for something else like fusion reactors that actually make energy
Could you explain in more detail what you mean?So we will still be waiting for something else like fusion reactors that actually make energy
Are you saying there won’t be enough electricity to charge a large number of EVs?
Also, energy is not made or destroyed, it is converted from one form to another.
Captain Smerc said:
James-m5qjf said:
Fossil fuel was dead to me when I test drove and EV a few weeks back. Even putting all the environmental stuff to one side, it was a better A to B driving experience.
Agreed, it feels like effortless motion compared to a ICE. So much better its almost laughable.AldotheApache said:
Nothing to do with denial, simple fact.
Construction of battery does matter, or don’t you understand it?
EV may well be the future for LGV, but HGV / Ships and aircraft will all still need fuel and it won’t be electricity.
We had an EQC and it didn’t work for us, I wish it would have.
Wow, already got rid of an EQC - which hasn't been on the market that long. Seems you wanted it to fail! Construction of battery does matter, or don’t you understand it?
EV may well be the future for LGV, but HGV / Ships and aircraft will all still need fuel and it won’t be electricity.
We had an EQC and it didn’t work for us, I wish it would have.
As you said, EV's are the future of passenger vehicles .. so who's in denial again?
James-m5qjf said:
If your fortunate enough to have off street parking the “fuel” light becomes a thing of the past as your home is your fuel station 
I absolutely agree, by why are you fortunate enough to have off street parking? There are plenty of cheap houses with off street parking and plenty of very expensive houses without, it's therefore a choice for many. There are also lots of workplaces with off street parking.Fastlane said:
James-m5qjf said:
If your fortunate enough to have off street parking the “fuel” light becomes a thing of the past as your home is your fuel station
I absolutely agree, by why are you fortunate enough to have off street parking? There are plenty of cheap houses with off street parking and plenty of very expensive houses without, it's therefore a choice for many. There are also lots of workplaces with off street parking.James-m5qjf said:
Fortunate or lucky, semantics. Nothing to do with how much your property costs, it’s just handy to have off street parking when it comes to charging an EV.
Nothing to do with luck or fortune either. Many EV owners/websites etc. imply that they are lucky to have off street parking, when really it is a simple choice. Going forward I suspect the ability to charge an EV at one's house will become a more important factor in the house buying process.Anyway completely OT.
Edited by Fastlane on Tuesday 17th August 10:10
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