EV tyres

[McAndy]

Hi. We're about 10 months into Hyundai Ioniq ownership, and tyres came up on the MOT.

I'm used to chosing tyres based upon grip, feel and general safety performance. However, the mix for an EV has me caring less about "feel" and more about rolling resistance vs. grip/safety vs. noise.

I can't rely on the evo annual tyre test for that; are there any publications/bodies that provide that kind of data?

The dealer recommended Nexen due to low rolling resistance, with Michelins cited as providing excess noise, but I'm nervous about going for a relatively unknown brand.

Thanks in advance!

[Pica-Pica]

Search a few tyre replacement sites, and they will show the tyre label.
A sample for Goodyear

The fuel pump symbol effectively represents rolling resistance, the others are wet weather performance and noise.
Also look at tyrereviews
https://www.tyrereviews.com/

Edited by Pica-Pica on Thursday 30th September 13:16

[TurboHatchback]

Pica-Pica said:

Search a few tyre replacement sites, and they will show the tyre label.
A sample for Goodyear

The fuel pump symbol effectively represents rolling resistance, the others are wet weather performance and noise.
Also look at tyrereviews
https://www.tyrereviews.com/

Edited by Pica-Pica on Thursday 30th September 13:16

Just remember that tyre labels are self-certified and that some manufacturers seem to have a rather different interpretation of how to go about the testing. All the far-eastern garbage tyres have excellent ratings on the label, it doesn't mean anything.

I would just buy a touring tyre (rather than a dedicated performance or eco tyre) from one of the big premium brands, Michelin being my favourite. Something like a Michelin Primacy. You can't really go wrong with that approach.

[Pica-Pica]

TurboHatchback said:

Pica-Pica said:

Search a few tyre replacement sites, and they will show the tyre label.
A sample for Goodyear

The fuel pump symbol effectively represents rolling resistance, the others are wet weather performance and noise.
Also look at tyrereviews
https://www.tyrereviews.com/

Edited by Pica-Pica on Thursday 30th September 13:16

Just remember that tyre labels are self-certified and that some manufacturers seem to have a rather different interpretation of how to go about the testing. All the far-eastern garbage tyres have excellent ratings on the label, it doesn't mean anything.

I would just buy a touring tyre (rather than a dedicated performance or eco tyre) from one of the big premium brands, Michelin being my favourite. Something like a Michelin Primacy. You can't really go wrong with that approach.

Short of a proper tyre test review (which I would go by), the tyre label is all we have. Generally they are useful comparators. Now, I am not a Michelin fan; but prefer Continental, Goodyear Efficient Grip (for lower noise) or Vredestein Quatracs for all-season (although Continental AllContact come close in all-season tests).

[GT911]

Always useful to get some more real-world info from users.

Can you give a bit more detail, is it just fronts or rears or both?

How many miles have they covered?

Why are you not just replacing them with the existing/OE tyres?

BTW, Nexen are OE on the Kia EV6 I think.

Edited by GT911 on Thursday 30th September 13:35

[TurboHatchback]

Pica-Pica said:

Short of a proper tyre test review (which I would go by), the tyre label is all we have. Generally they are useful comparators. Now, I am not a Michelin fan; but prefer Continental, Goodyear Efficient Grip (for lower noise) or Vredestein Quatracs for all-season (although Continental AllContact come close in all-season tests).

For sure, you can't go wrong with any of those and for quality western manufacturers I would have some trust in the label. I was pointing out that a DingDong ditchfinder special with A for everything on the label is unlikely to live up to the same standards that those As would mean on a Michelin or Continental etc.

[McAndy]

GT911 said:

Always useful to get some more real-world info from users.

Can you give a bit more detail, is it just fronts or rears or both?

How many miles have they covered?

Why are you not just replacing them with the existing/OE tyres?

Fair one. Around 13k miles on the car; we bought it at 9k and I haven't looked at the history to see whether they've been replaced during first ownership. Just the fronts.

I may go OE, but I haven't seen much independent information about Nexan, and if a dealer recommends tyres I can't stop the voice at the back of mind suggesting that their recommendation is more focussed on their pocket than my safety!

[GT911]

I guess you don't do a lot of motorway miles then.
In the US the OE tyres are lasting up to 60,000 miles albeit they use a harder compound.
My teeth itch when I see cars with different brands front and rear, but that's just me.

[Pica-Pica]

Here are some summer touring tyre reviews, including Nexen

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2013-ACE-Summe...

ETA: that’s quite an old test, but the only one with Nexen. Maybe this

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Tyre-Revi...

For what it’s worth, I have GOODYEAR EfficientGrip Performance on a 335d, and my wife has Vredestein Quatrac 5 (all season) on a Fabia. Both perform well and are quiet.

Edited by Pica-Pica on Thursday 30th September 14:10

[georgeyboy12345]

I recently bought some Pirelli Powergy tyres for my A3 e-tron. They are ok - not too noisy but not the quietest either. I can still spin em up if I’m too heavy footed off the line, but they grip pretty well.

[aparna]

Was hoping to try Michelin's pilot sport EV, but were not available by time the torque burnt up my rears.

[Martyn76]

Given a lot of EVs seem to be RWD in standard form does the weight help in cold\wet\wintery conditions against something like a BMW 3 series, come November time I will be bringing out my winter wheels but have been looking at an EV as my next car.

[off_again]

Or swap to an i3, at which point you have no choices!

[granada203028]

Tyres are more similar than many would have you believe and most tests are just subjective opinion. You can't get technical data on them such as noise, life mm/1000 miles, grip fraction of a g etc.

In large sizes they are disappointingly expensive for the life and noise you get. I'm lucky my Leaf has 16 in. I see this new ID life thing is going to have 20 in for god's sake.

Commercial vehicle tires do look to be genuinely different with harder compounds for longer life accepting higher noise and less grip.

I'd love to see some truly objective comparison data.

[Mr Squarekins]

You need to look at these choices more closely than you'd imagine. For example BMW specify Bridgestone s001 on some cars like the i8. However they have 6mm tread when new, so are effectively down on tread compared to many. They recommend changing at 3mm, so you pay £200 for 3mm of use

[buggalugs]

Tyre Reviews recently did a video on EV vs non EV tyres - https://youtu.be/gg5MdeC6qzI