EV Trip planning
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I thought I'd enbark on a theoretical exercise and "plan" an EV trip.
So this is with a view of how long would it take with charging stops etc.
The theoretical car is a Taycan TC 4S
So the trip was from Calais to Chamonix. The trip according to Google maps is 900km 8.5 hours.
So I plugged in the location into an EV planning app and it said that journey would need 7(!) stops to charge?
I'm a newb so where have I gone wrong? I figured it would only need 4 or so stops?
Hoping to learn the correct way to plan EV journeys.
Many thanks
T1b
So this is with a view of how long would it take with charging stops etc.
The theoretical car is a Taycan TC 4S
So the trip was from Calais to Chamonix. The trip according to Google maps is 900km 8.5 hours.
So I plugged in the location into an EV planning app and it said that journey would need 7(!) stops to charge?
I'm a newb so where have I gone wrong? I figured it would only need 4 or so stops?
Hoping to learn the correct way to plan EV journeys.
Many thanks
T1b
Lots of variables.... Will you be at 100% when you leave Calais?
Electric consumption goes up a lot when you sit at motorway speeds for hours on end. Range comes down a lot. My EV advertised range is 280 miles - it will barely break 200 miles if you're up at 80mph for long periods,especially if you have the heater or the AC on.
You can't arrive at a charger with sub 20/30 miles remaining - it's too much of a gamble that the charger is either working or available - you need to stop earlier to keep some range in reserve for emergency.
7 short ish stops vs 4 longer stops? It's the total cumulative time stopped to charge on a journey that I focus on rather than number of stops. Don't forget you'll get faster charge across the 25-75% range (depending on your specific car) , they slow down a lot as you get above 80%.
Electric consumption goes up a lot when you sit at motorway speeds for hours on end. Range comes down a lot. My EV advertised range is 280 miles - it will barely break 200 miles if you're up at 80mph for long periods,especially if you have the heater or the AC on.
You can't arrive at a charger with sub 20/30 miles remaining - it's too much of a gamble that the charger is either working or available - you need to stop earlier to keep some range in reserve for emergency.
7 short ish stops vs 4 longer stops? It's the total cumulative time stopped to charge on a journey that I focus on rather than number of stops. Don't forget you'll get faster charge across the 25-75% range (depending on your specific car) , they slow down a lot as you get above 80%.
What EV route-planning app did you use? Have you tried another one? To get an accurate route plan, you need to select the car type, charger output power preference and the levels you're charging the car to, and from (eg: charge to 80% & run down to 20% before charging).
I realise it's not the point you're making, but obviously that number of stops is wrong, unless you're driving way above the speed limits.
I realise it's not the point you're making, but obviously that number of stops is wrong, unless you're driving way above the speed limits.
aparna said:
Sorry to be that guy, but .... switch to Tesla and it's 3 stops. 58 min total charging time.
It won't take long to level out, but it's an awkward time for non tesla road trips I'm afraid.
1h25m in a M3LR according to the Tesla planner. Similar in a Plaid. Which model did you do your plan with? Sub 1hr for a 600 mile trip is very impressive if that's correct. It won't take long to level out, but it's an awkward time for non tesla road trips I'm afraid.
Cheers for the replies.
I used abetterrouteplanner. The stop time was 1:53.00.
I'm getting it will be less efficient at motorway speeds, I was just a bit shocked to see a range of say 400km effectively halved?
I don't own an electric car (yet) but do plan on doing trips to Europe. Car wise on the list would be a 93kw Taycan TC or at the other end of the scale an Ioniq 5 / EV6.
I would be expecting to charge up fully overnight at Dover before the French leg of the trip.
I used abetterrouteplanner. The stop time was 1:53.00.
I'm getting it will be less efficient at motorway speeds, I was just a bit shocked to see a range of say 400km effectively halved?
I don't own an electric car (yet) but do plan on doing trips to Europe. Car wise on the list would be a 93kw Taycan TC or at the other end of the scale an Ioniq 5 / EV6.
I would be expecting to charge up fully overnight at Dover before the French leg of the trip.
T1berious said:
Cheers peeps,
93kw if we go Taycan 4S TC or basically the biggest battery available in the EV we eventually end up with.
So from the sound of things the app was less than great.
I've just put in the same trip in the same car and it shows 963km and 4 stops for charging @ 1hr39mins. 10 hours 17 mins total journey 93kw if we go Taycan 4S TC or basically the biggest battery available in the EV we eventually end up with.
So from the sound of things the app was less than great.
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