Shell all EV Station Fulham
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I know some have a problem with fossil fuel companies getting in on the EV space but I like forecourts like this with lots of chargers. Shell have also been quietly rolling out quite a few 4x175kw sites to augment existing petrol stations (I used two sites on the A1 and they're ace), MFG are putting loads in too, and most of the new BP Pulse installs are at least a pair of 150kw chargers on an existing BP site. The only thing not to like about the Fulham one is that it's not 24/7, apparently grumpy locals won't allow it.
They do away with lots of the negatives of public charging - they're usually covered from the rain, have a shop and toilets, don't need to worry about weird parking restrictions (like the hotel/restaurant/supermarket ones) and are well lit, CCTVed, usually staffed spaces that people can feel safe in.
They do away with lots of the negatives of public charging - they're usually covered from the rain, have a shop and toilets, don't need to worry about weird parking restrictions (like the hotel/restaurant/supermarket ones) and are well lit, CCTVed, usually staffed spaces that people can feel safe in.
I like the format in the sense of somewhere to get a drink and a bite to eat while charging the car so long as there are enough chargers and electrical current to service the demand.
Most wont use it as they will have home charging at the moment but as the demise of petrol and diesel continues more and more people who have no charging capability will start to rely on this sort of thing.
Most wont use it as they will have home charging at the moment but as the demise of petrol and diesel continues more and more people who have no charging capability will start to rely on this sort of thing.
somouk said:
I like the format in the sense of somewhere to get a drink and a bite to eat while charging the car so long as there are enough chargers and electrical current to service the demand.
Most wont use it as they will have home charging at the moment but as the demise of petrol and diesel continues more and more people who have no charging capability will start to rely on this sort of thing.
thanks for this point, if you have a charger at home you would not nip out for electricity as suchMost wont use it as they will have home charging at the moment but as the demise of petrol and diesel continues more and more people who have no charging capability will start to rely on this sort of thing.
I've used it a few times since it opened, hardly anyone there, so could get a charging point immediately. Bizarrely, despite Shell hailing it as the first electric forecourt in the UK from them, it doesn't actually open until 7am. That's right, they have metal bollards that block any vehicle from entering before it formally opens for the day, even though technically all the chargers could be used. Maybe Shell think that EV drivers don't want to rapid charge before 7am? :-)
I used the chargers a number of times with an Audi Q4 e-tron at various states of charge, and the speeds obtained were lower than they should have been. Not sure how regular the issue is, but one time, they had 4 out of the 9 chargers out of service. One member of staff came out and asked me if I was happy with the speed of charging and when I showed my disappointment, then they mentioned that charging speeds don't seem to be that good quite a bit of the time for drivers.
It's expensive, 49p per kwh! Decent facilities in terms of shop, place to sit, and toilets were very clean.
Given it used to be full of petrol and diesel pumps for years, they don't seem to be doing a good job of letting people know that it's EV charging only now (Maybe the Shell recharge branding isn't recognised enough?) but whilst charging I noticed a constant flow of ICE drivers entering, trundling through and exiting with a confused expression wondering why they can't fill up with petrol/diesel at this Shell forecourt :-)
I used the chargers a number of times with an Audi Q4 e-tron at various states of charge, and the speeds obtained were lower than they should have been. Not sure how regular the issue is, but one time, they had 4 out of the 9 chargers out of service. One member of staff came out and asked me if I was happy with the speed of charging and when I showed my disappointment, then they mentioned that charging speeds don't seem to be that good quite a bit of the time for drivers.
It's expensive, 49p per kwh! Decent facilities in terms of shop, place to sit, and toilets were very clean.
Given it used to be full of petrol and diesel pumps for years, they don't seem to be doing a good job of letting people know that it's EV charging only now (Maybe the Shell recharge branding isn't recognised enough?) but whilst charging I noticed a constant flow of ICE drivers entering, trundling through and exiting with a confused expression wondering why they can't fill up with petrol/diesel at this Shell forecourt :-)
raspy said:
I've used it a few times since it opened, hardly anyone there, so could get a charging point immediately. Bizarrely, despite Shell hailing it as the first electric forecourt in the UK from them, it doesn't actually open until 7am. That's right, they have metal bollards that block any vehicle from entering before it formally opens for the day, even though technically all the chargers could be used. Maybe Shell think that EV drivers don't want to rapid charge before 7am? :-)
I used the chargers a number of times with an Audi Q4 e-tron at various states of charge, and the speeds obtained were lower than they should have been. Not sure how regular the issue is, but one time, they had 4 out of the 9 chargers out of service. One member of staff came out and asked me if I was happy with the speed of charging and when I showed my disappointment, then they mentioned that charging speeds don't seem to be that good quite a bit of the time for drivers.
It's expensive, 49p per kwh! Decent facilities in terms of shop, place to sit, and toilets were very clean.
Given it used to be full of petrol and diesel pumps for years, they don't seem to be doing a good job of letting people know that it's EV charging only now (Maybe the Shell recharge branding isn't recognised enough?) but whilst charging I noticed a constant flow of ICE drivers entering, trundling through and exiting with a confused expression wondering why they can't fill up with petrol/diesel at this Shell forecourt :-)
Very interesting report, especially the lower charge rates for reasons unknown and the confusion for ICE cars. I wonder if planning permission stops them opening before 7am.I used the chargers a number of times with an Audi Q4 e-tron at various states of charge, and the speeds obtained were lower than they should have been. Not sure how regular the issue is, but one time, they had 4 out of the 9 chargers out of service. One member of staff came out and asked me if I was happy with the speed of charging and when I showed my disappointment, then they mentioned that charging speeds don't seem to be that good quite a bit of the time for drivers.
It's expensive, 49p per kwh! Decent facilities in terms of shop, place to sit, and toilets were very clean.
Given it used to be full of petrol and diesel pumps for years, they don't seem to be doing a good job of letting people know that it's EV charging only now (Maybe the Shell recharge branding isn't recognised enough?) but whilst charging I noticed a constant flow of ICE drivers entering, trundling through and exiting with a confused expression wondering why they can't fill up with petrol/diesel at this Shell forecourt :-)
Dave Hedgehog said:
hadaporsche said:
EV drivers, what do you think of the new Shell EV station Fulham?
like most with home charging, its utterly irrelevant to me I've never bought in to the vision of petrol stations being replaced by banks of EV chargers. Petrol always needed specialist handling to be dispensed to the masses, needed dedicated stations. Electricity, is already running down every residential street in the country and there are already, and will be further practical ways to get it in to the cars - even for those without off street parking.
For the very occasional journeys that myself and the vast majority of motorists make that need a charge during the trip, we've already gone at least 100 miles by the time even the most limited EV's really need a charge, and most will have gone well over 200 miles - so I'd rather stop at proper services with a choice of restaurants etc. IE: A place to have a proper break on a longish journey.
20 minutes.
Tesla Model S Performance, 350 rated range, 280 range the way I drive it.
To add 150 miles is around 40% fill up, which from a 15% start would take about 15-20 minutes at a supercharger.
Or the same amount of time as a pee, a coffee order and to drink it.
Has never been an issue in 20,000 miles and 2 years.
But it does take more planning than just splurging on super unleaded.
And if you want to charge all the way to 100% from 10% be ready for an hour or so.
Tesla Model S Performance, 350 rated range, 280 range the way I drive it.
To add 150 miles is around 40% fill up, which from a 15% start would take about 15-20 minutes at a supercharger.
Or the same amount of time as a pee, a coffee order and to drink it.
Has never been an issue in 20,000 miles and 2 years.
But it does take more planning than just splurging on super unleaded.
And if you want to charge all the way to 100% from 10% be ready for an hour or so.
silverfoxcc said:
Question for the EV contingent
Your battey has less than 50 miles range in it.
You wish to travel 200 miles and not stop again for a 'refill'
how long will it take to give you enough charge odo this?
We would know we had a 200 mile journey so wouldn't wake up that morning with a battery with just 50 miles charge in it..Your battey has less than 50 miles range in it.
You wish to travel 200 miles and not stop again for a 'refill'
how long will it take to give you enough charge odo this?
I suppose it's possible I could have 50 miles left and then for some sort of emergency need to travel 200 miles. The most common public chargers (other than the slow ones at Tesco etc) are virtually all at least 50kw now. That equates to between 120-140 miles of charge per hour on most EV's. On any 200 mile route it wouldn't be difficult to find a 100kw or higher charger though. At a 150kw charger about 20 minutes, hardly any time at all really.
In reality I suppose I would plug the car in at home the moment I realised there was a chance I had to make a sudden 200 mile journey, so by the time I actually left home I would have more than 50 miles anyway.
It's been nearly two years and I've only used a few public chargers in about 15k miles. And only used them when I was due a break from driving/lunch as much as the battery was due a charge. I think I'm fairly typical in that regard when it comes to EV drivers.
Edited by TheDeuce on Thursday 20th January 17:44
silverfoxcc said:
Question for the EV contingent
Your battey has less than 50 miles range in it.
You wish to travel 200 miles and not stop again for a 'refill'
how long will it take to give you enough charge odo this?
200 miles of driving without planning any break?Your battey has less than 50 miles range in it.
You wish to travel 200 miles and not stop again for a 'refill'
how long will it take to give you enough charge odo this?
I think I'd drive 20 miles to get the car a bit warmer, charge and coffee - should get in, what, 25-30 kW in half hour - and in a further 100 miles I'd need a loo stop anyway - pee, charge, more coffee....
Toaster Pilot said:
EV Beano said:
200 miles of driving without planning any break?
Yes, very realistically. I’m a massive EV advocate but I’ve got no idea where this comes from, especially on long motorway journeys.
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