EEEK!!! Pt2 - insurance!!!

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DodgyGeezer

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43,916 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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well the first electric shock, so to speak, has already reared its ugly head. I've been used to reasonably silly cars over the years and thought that I was inured to silly insurance quotes... turns out I was wrong!! My current insurer, it transpires, does not insure electric cars - the broker's quote once this was taken into account was £1,300 What. The, Actual. fkingfketyfkfkyikes I was a little surprised and did let go a bit of an involuntary expletive on the phone.

I've since got the price down by roughly 50% by going elsewhere but, in all honesty, that still seems quite lumpy - more than enough to wipe a smug, self-satisfied smile off anyone's face!

I'm prepared for another hit when I get around to fitting a home charger but it is a sobering reminder of how unforeseen costs can quickly escalate

paradigital

1,033 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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My current insurer would insure me on my Model 3 Performance but the price was nuttybonkers.

Eventually got the price down to a “reasonable” level (£486) by going with Direct Line.

Edited by paradigital on Wednesday 11th January 18:27

DodgyGeezer

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204 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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paradigital said:
My current insurer would insure me on my Model 3 Performance but the price was nuttybonkers.

Eventually got the price down to a “reasonable” level (£486) by going with Direct Line.

Edited by paradigital on Wednesday 11th January 18:27
funnily enough I've just tried DL - who've just quoted me double your figure (I always thought that I lived in a good area, I may have to reevaluate that thinking)

Gnevans

512 posts

136 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Try Aviva or LV

TheDeuce

28,101 posts

80 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Apparently EV insurance is generally dipping below ICE insurance: https://heycar.co.uk/blog/electric-cars-cost-less-...

Although as ever, it's highly model specific and if the underwriters have limited data on a certain car they'll air well on the side of caution. Finding the right insurer is key.

Hopefully as the years roll by EV will prove to be a significant lower overall risk and this will be reflected in premiums.

Minsky

334 posts

39 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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We are with Admiral - new Polestar was cheaper than (very old) VW.

It is selective - we got some crazy quotes. LV seem to push the EV insurance at the Fully Charged Show so they maybe worth a shot.


somouk

1,425 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I'm with admiral, Aviva wanted to charge me about triple what I pay with Admiral.

Directline are meant to be good.

nd0000

243 posts

134 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Is this down to supply chain issues meaning small accidents turn into lengthy periods in a hire car?

DMZ

1,748 posts

174 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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TheDeuce said:
Apparently EV insurance is generally dipping below ICE insurance: https://heycar.co.uk/blog/electric-cars-cost-less-...

Although as ever, it's highly model specific and if the underwriters have limited data on a certain car they'll air well on the side of caution. Finding the right insurer is key.

Hopefully as the years roll by EV will prove to be a significant lower overall risk and this will be reflected in premiums.
From talking to insurers there are Tesla specific loadings. It’s a pain to get them repaired apparently.

TheDeuce

28,101 posts

80 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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DMZ said:
TheDeuce said:
Apparently EV insurance is generally dipping below ICE insurance: https://heycar.co.uk/blog/electric-cars-cost-less-...

Although as ever, it's highly model specific and if the underwriters have limited data on a certain car they'll air well on the side of caution. Finding the right insurer is key.

Hopefully as the years roll by EV will prove to be a significant lower overall risk and this will be reflected in premiums.
From talking to insurers there are Tesla specific loadings. It’s a pain to get them repaired apparently.
I can't say I'm surprised. Also the propensity for the rear bumpers to detach can't have helped things!

I also imagine that cars sold largely on their ability to do bonkers 0-60 dashes to folk that previously bought Focus's and Golfs kept the underwriters up at night.

DodgyGeezer

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204 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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this is tres bizarre

- LV require a tracker
- NFU don't insure electric for new business
- Admiral are £200 cheaper online
- cheapest meerkat quote was nudging £1,000
- cheapest confused (and I am!!) was £800
- go compare were soso
- Flux were £1,000+


for context

- we're over 50
- no points
- reasonable/good area (we thought!!)
- 1 non-fault claim 2 years ago
- retired/houseperson
- no mods
- no < 16s
- extra vehicle at the house (so no courtesy car needed in the unfortunate event of an oopsie)



TheDeuce

28,101 posts

80 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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DodgyGeezer said:
this is tres bizarre

- LV require a tracker
- NFU don't insure electric for new business
- Admiral are £200 cheaper online
- cheapest meerkat quote was nudging £1,000
- cheapest confused (and I am!!) was £800
- go compare were soso
- Flux were £1,000+


for context

- we're over 50
- no points
- reasonable/good area (we thought!!)
- 1 non-fault claim 2 years ago
- retired/houseperson
- no mods
- no < 16s
- extra vehicle at the house (so no courtesy car needed in the unfortunate event of an oopsie)
Maybe they've seen your PH username scratchchin

DodgyGeezer

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43,916 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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TheDeuce said:
Maybe they've seen your PH username scratchchin
rofl

sociopath

3,433 posts

80 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Mustang mach-e was £395 last year with DL
This year its gone up to £429 with a broker, DL wanted £550.

In my wife's name (she's 56 with only 5 years NCD, as she had a company car previously)

OutInTheShed

11,244 posts

40 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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TheDeuce said:
Apparently EV insurance is generally dipping below ICE insurance: https://heycar.co.uk/blog/electric-cars-cost-less-...

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Hopefully as the years roll by EV will prove to be a significant lower overall risk and this will be reflected in premiums.
That article seems hopelessly full of st.
It probably just means a lot more Ford Fiasco drivers are about 18 years old?

Post 2015 cars in general are expensive to repair after even minor dings.
And retail prices of cars are high. Risk as a % of value may not be unreasonable, but you're insuring something with a high notional value.

Blue62

9,774 posts

166 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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I’m paying under £500 for a Taycan 4S, no tracker required with Churchill. I can’t imagine any car thief targeting an EV, but understand theft is not the only criterion.

TheDeuce

28,101 posts

80 months

Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Blue62 said:
I’m paying under £500 for a Taycan 4S, no tracker required with Churchill. I can’t imagine any car thief targeting an EV, but understand theft is not the only criterion.
The 1050nm of torque accidentally deployed whilst pulling up onto one's drive perhaps?



Any excuse to post this whistle

In all seriousness though, aren't just about all EV's effectively fitted with a tracker? - they're all 'connected'. I too can't see much theft going on and the statistics well and truly back that up. Also as new cars, cars aimed at the tech savvy, most have all sorts of crash avoidance tech and driver aids by default.



Edited by TheDeuce on Wednesday 11th January 23:22

DodgyGeezer

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Wednesday 11th January 2023
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Blue62 said:
I’m paying under £500 for a Taycan 4S, no tracker required with Churchill. I can’t imagine any car thief targeting an EV, but understand theft is not the only criterion.
Indeed - I'm on about half that for my Challenger... oh well, it is what it is irked