Taycan replacement battery cost

Taycan replacement battery cost

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Boxster5

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712 posts

110 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Anyone seen the Taycan advertised on Autotrader.
2020 model with 50,000+ miles, cheapest one on AT at the moment.
Here’s the thing though - replacement battery cost £55k under Porsche warranty 4 months ago. S**t a brick - the car’s up for sale at £57k, private seller, no mention of still under warranty.
Who on Earth would consider buying one of these with that hanging around your neck? Assume the only sane way would be to buy from main dealer and extend the warranty (which I assume will be substantial if these costs come into play). I also assume anything out of the main dealer network would struggle to get a non Porsche warranty to cover anywhere near those costs.
The world has gone mad and not sure how Porsche can justify these costs.
I’d be walking swiftly by on that one.

Boxster5

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712 posts

110 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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ajap1979

8,014 posts

189 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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It would be interesting to know why the battery was replaced.

GT9

6,961 posts

174 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Main dealer in exorbitant repair cost shocker....
How about £30k for just a gearbox?
https://www.carscoops.com/2022/03/uk-audi-r8-owner...

JD

2,799 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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How much is a replacement engine for a Panamera fitted at an OPC for balance?

Dark85

665 posts

150 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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An insurance claim crossed my desk a good few years ago for a flood damaged Audi R8. The engine replacement was over £50K alone, in the end total costs exceeded 80K and it was written off. Expensive cars are expensive to repair.

Nomme de Plum

4,725 posts

18 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Depending on the model spec it sounds like it could be a good buy. New battery is never a bad thing to have.

It would be predicated on understanding how much of the Porsche original warranty existed and maybe finding out whether an extended warranty could be purchased.

I'd expect to negotiate the price down to maybe £50K or under.

I've just checked it is a 4S so under £50K would be good.

Fastlane

1,193 posts

219 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Boxster5 said:
Anyone seen the Taycan advertised on Autotrader.
2020 model with 50,000+ miles, cheapest one on AT at the moment.
Here’s the thing though - replacement battery cost £55k under Porsche warranty 4 months ago. S**t a brick - the car’s up for sale at £57k, private seller, no mention of still under warranty.
Who on Earth would consider buying one of these with that hanging around your neck? Assume the only sane way would be to buy from main dealer and extend the warranty (which I assume will be substantial if these costs come into play). I also assume anything out of the main dealer network would struggle to get a non Porsche warranty to cover anywhere near those costs.
The world has gone mad and not sure how Porsche can justify these costs.
I’d be walking swiftly by on that one.
Given your name, I'm surprised you are unaware of borescoring? Lots of engines replaced under warranty at massive costs.

Or are you just scaremongering because EVs scare you?

kambites

67,726 posts

223 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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As others have said, I suspect a new engine in a Panamera would be billed for a similar amount if a dealer was replacing it under warranty.

dino_jr

366 posts

178 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Is that a typo... 50kW DC on-board charger? I'd have thought it's at least 150kW.

MisterBigglesworth

454 posts

50 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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The Taycan has a 8 year 100,000 mile battery warranty.

By the time the cars reach that agent and mileage then it will be no different than a 100k mile Panamera Turbo S with a blown V8 - you’d either write the car off for parts or replace the pack with a used one off eBay.

I’m sure there will be some enterprising individuals who setup battery refurb and swap services by then, the pack is made up of 33 individual modules which cost about 600 euros each, but given the batteries can actually be bought direct from the suppliers replacing bad cells is much less technical work than rebuilding a blown engine.


MisterBigglesworth

454 posts

50 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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dino_jr said:
Is that a typo... 50kW DC on-board charger? I'd have thought it's at least 150kW.
Think it must be a typo having checked the config.

My car has a 150kwh 400v converter and a 22keh onboard option to enable 3 phase charging.

Although maybe Porsche upgraded it.

JonnyVTEC

3,017 posts

177 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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dino_jr said:
Is that a typo... 50kW DC on-board charger? I'd have thought it's at least 150kW.
Just the 400V speed unless you pay for the ungraded one, 800V will do the 270kW

Boxster5

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712 posts

110 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Fastlane said:
Boxster5 said:
Anyone seen the Taycan advertised on Autotrader.
2020 model with 50,000+ miles, cheapest one on AT at the moment.
Here’s the thing though - replacement battery cost £55k under Porsche warranty 4 months ago. S**t a brick - the car’s up for sale at £57k, private seller, no mention of still under warranty.
Who on Earth would consider buying one of these with that hanging around your neck? Assume the only sane way would be to buy from main dealer and extend the warranty (which I assume will be substantial if these costs come into play). I also assume anything out of the main dealer network would struggle to get a non Porsche warranty to cover anywhere near those costs.
The world has gone mad and not sure how Porsche can justify these costs.
I’d be walking swiftly by on that one.
Given your name, I'm surprised you are unaware of borescoring? Lots of engines replaced under warranty at massive costs.

Or are you just scaremongering because EVs scare you?
No I’m fully aware of all the Porsche scare stories re borescoring, IMS, RMS etc etc. Another ticking time bomb is the PDK gearbox - replacement cost circa £14k as they only do complete replacement, not repair. However £55k is stretching things I’m afraid.

TheDeuce

22,520 posts

68 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Boxster5 said:
Fastlane said:
Boxster5 said:
Anyone seen the Taycan advertised on Autotrader.
2020 model with 50,000+ miles, cheapest one on AT at the moment.
Here’s the thing though - replacement battery cost £55k under Porsche warranty 4 months ago. S**t a brick - the car’s up for sale at £57k, private seller, no mention of still under warranty.
Who on Earth would consider buying one of these with that hanging around your neck? Assume the only sane way would be to buy from main dealer and extend the warranty (which I assume will be substantial if these costs come into play). I also assume anything out of the main dealer network would struggle to get a non Porsche warranty to cover anywhere near those costs.
The world has gone mad and not sure how Porsche can justify these costs.
I’d be walking swiftly by on that one.
Given your name, I'm surprised you are unaware of borescoring? Lots of engines replaced under warranty at massive costs.

Or are you just scaremongering because EVs scare you?
No I’m fully aware of all the Porsche scare stories re borescoring, IMS, RMS etc etc. Another ticking time bomb is the PDK gearbox - replacement cost circa £14k as they only do complete replacement, not repair. However £55k is stretching things I’m afraid.
It does seem a nonsense price - but it is a very expensive component in real cost terms and it is Porsche... Probably no more markup on this than other significant replacement costs from Porsche.

I think with my logical head on... this can go one of two ways. If the batteries generally prove so reliable that this is a very unlikely cost an owner will ever encounter, then no big problem. If however scores of owners end up with £55k repair bills, Porsche will receive some really ugly press and have to get more realistic about replacement costs.

Whatever happens I doubt that this sort of thing will become a lasting legacy of the Taycan.

It's also too early for trusted non dealer shops to generally carry out such swaps - but that will come in time and clearly they won't be charging customers £55k once they're established.

For the mean time, I would never have an expensive EV out of warranty, because right now, they're all pretty much at the mercy of main dealer repairs for anything on the electrical powertrain side.

samoht

5,831 posts

148 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Of all the things to worry about with a secondhand luxury performance car, the component that's still under factory warranty for another five years would be bottom of my list.


Boxster5

Original Poster:

712 posts

110 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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samoht said:
Of all the things to worry about with a secondhand luxury performance car, the component that's still under factory warranty for another five years would be bottom of my list.
Not sure what happens at end of warranty (generally 3 years but I take on board the 8 year battery warranty) - does the “extended” warranty cover the battery power train (I’m assuming it has to).
Too many unknown factors at present to even consider one for me I’m afraid.
Will be interesting to see what take up is of the forthcoming EV Boxster.

TheDeuce

22,520 posts

68 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Boxster5 said:
samoht said:
Of all the things to worry about with a secondhand luxury performance car, the component that's still under factory warranty for another five years would be bottom of my list.
Not sure what happens at end of warranty (generally 3 years but I take on board the 8 year battery warranty) - does the “extended” warranty cover the battery power train (I’m assuming it has to).
Too many unknown factors at present to even consider one for me I’m afraid.
Will be interesting to see what take up is of the forthcoming EV Boxster.
The battery warranty would cover aa replacement cost for the full 8 year term. Beyond that, either third party replacements will be sufficiently affordable as to not worry too much or... if not, keep the car incl battery under a third party warranty.

This is only going to be big issue if premature (as in, before say, 200k miles) battery failures prove to be commonplace for the Taycan. That seems unlikely given that most early EV's have had no problem sweeping past that sort of milestone. I strongly suspect that over time we will learn that EV's are generally more resilient to expensive failure than ICE equivalents. It is however, too soon to be certain - hence my repeat advice to keep expensive EV's under warranty.

tvrfan007

413 posts

176 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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There's a guy on here with a Taycan who woke up one day to find his battery range halved, and had a new battery fitted under warranty (twice I recall as something wasn't correct with the first and wouldn't code). Don't forget the huge cost of labour in that 55k, not in hours per se but hourly rate.

Not sure how commonplace it is or if it was doing a fix for a known problem, but this is the stuff of nightmares that will put thousands off EVs. I only have an EV as I don't care if it breaks it is someone else's problem!

barryrs

4,420 posts

225 months