KIA PV5 Vans

[P675]

Anyone else excited about the new KIA vans? I've got a model 3 for at least another 2.5 years, but my next purchase I want an EV that I can get my motorcycle in the back of, but also not mind commuting in.

Comparing to current offerings:
-VW Buzz, too small, too pricey
-Mercedes EQV, huge but very pricey, seats do come out easy
-Renault/Peugeot/Citreons/Vauxhalls, range is awful and so is the interior
-Transit, looks alright but seems expensive
-Toyota Proace Verso, looks ok

I'm thinking about popping into the Commercial Vehicle Show next month at the NEC to get a proper look at the passenger variant. The specs and price are attractive if they turn out to be real.

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

P675 said:

Anyone else excited about the new KIA vans? I've got a model 3 for at least another 2.5 years, but my next purchase I want an EV that I can get my motorcycle in the back of, but also not mind commuting in.

Comparing to current offerings:
-VW Buzz, too small, too pricey
-Mercedes EQV, huge but very pricey, seats do come out easy
-Renault/Peugeot/Citreons/Vauxhalls, range is awful and so is the interior
-Transit, looks alright but seems expensive
-Toyota Proace Verso, looks ok

I'm thinking about popping into the Commercial Vehicle Show next month at the NEC to get a proper look at the passenger variant. The specs and price are attractive if they turn out to be real.

£25K for that? Where do I sign

[ZesPak]

I saw a very funky Huyndai MPV/van a while ago, I looked it up and, it was a STARIA but I was disappointed to learn it was a PHEV at best.
Looked great for what it was imho, in all black.

This one similarly looks a LOT better in all black:

Edited by ZesPak on Wednesday 12th March 23:39

[sjg]

Love these. They're a normal car width too, 90mm narrower than a Buzz. Can't wait to see some proper specs and prices.

Have an imported Honda Stepwgn as a family bus, bike lugger and camping holiday car - these are very similar dimensions and boxy shape. So refreshing in a world of gargantuan 7-seat SUVs and van-based MPVs.

[P675]

I went to look at these at the Commercial Vehicle Show. Unfortunately they didn't bring the passenger version, only the Cargo and Crew. Sitting in it and adjusting for my driving position, it seemed comfy enough, only downside was the door armrest is quite low. The cargo area is certainly big enough for a motorbike.

I spoke to a KIA guy and he said the Cargo would be coming late this year, but passenger version is late 2026-early 2027. Odd that they are showing these off so far from release, maybe they will be available in other countries before the UK.

[Back2theFuji]

One to keep an eye on. They do tend to release some models in other markets first e.g. the EV5 has been available in Australia and New Zealand for a while.

[Jon39]

Study the electric van market carefully before buying.
Certainly don't take any notice of list prices. Only a few mugs wanting depreciation pay list.

The reality for business, is that unless you enjoy paying your employees to do nothing for an hour or so while charging (full load and it won't keep going for a complete working day).

The result therefore, if it suits you, bargains are available.

Many pre-registered electric vans (including the VW Buzz) have not found buyers (your source autotrader).

Base your budget on this example.
Use your Trump negotiating skills, because that is only the asking price and after 15 months with no sale, they might now be desperate.


Apart from 30 miles, here is a brand new electric van (list appears to be from £42,695).

[Pistonheadsdicoverer]

Jon39 said:

Study the electric van market carefully before buying.
Certainly don't take any notice of list prices. Only a few mugs wanting depreciation pay list.

The reality for business, is that unless you enjoy paying your employees to do nothing for an hour or so while charging (full load and it won't keep going for a complete working day).

The result therefore, if it suits you, bargains are available.

Many pre-registered electric vans (including the VW Buzz) have not found buyers (your source autotrader).

Base your budget on this example.
Use your Trump negotiating skills, because that is only the asking price and after 15 months with no sale, they might now be desperate.


Apart from 30 miles, here is a brand new electric van (list appears to be from £42,695).

Do you know how I can get AT to show the passenger version of the ID Buzz? I can only find the van version. TIA.

[Jon39]

Pistonheadsdicoverer said:

Do you know how I can get AT to show the passenger version of the ID Buzz? I can only find the van version. TIA.

I found rear seats, so presumably the correct versions.

Search;
Electric cars
Press Search
After that, refine your search to include;
Make VW
Model ID Buzz
Mileage Up to 100 miles.

That produced 23 advertisements, some of those cars unsold since pre-registration 2 years ago.








The new list prices (for depreciation lovers) appear to be in the £60,000s.

[Truckosaurus]

Jon39 said:

...Apart from 30 miles, here is a brand new electric van (list appears to be from £42,695).

Might be a good base for a campervan conversion - would be used for leisure driving so fewer issues around range and charging time (and you can make a cup of tea or have a snooze while you charge).

[TheDeuce]

P675 said:

Anyone else excited about the new KIA vans? I've got a model 3 for at least another 2.5 years, but my next purchase I want an EV that I can get my motorcycle in the back of, but also not mind commuting in.

Comparing to current offerings:
-VW Buzz, too small, too pricey
-Mercedes EQV, huge but very pricey, seats do come out easy
-Renault/Peugeot/Citreons/Vauxhalls, range is awful and so is the interior
-Transit, looks alright but seems expensive
-Toyota Proace Verso, looks ok

I'm thinking about popping into the Commercial Vehicle Show next month at the NEC to get a proper look at the passenger variant. The specs and price are attractive if they turn out to be real.

My business partner has a Kia EV9, it's sublime. The middle row of seats spin round, it's all the toys and luxuries front and back too! In terms of practicality and value for money it's staggering.

It's quite a large car of course... But it drives itself into and out of parking spaces, so not really an issue

Kia are unbeatable at the moment I think, although BYD and other Chinese firms will be bringing new models to the UK soon, which are also crazy good value and very well specced cars.

[ACCYSTAN]

Hi,
At the moment I am planning on buying a Kia PV5 passenger van/car as my first EV.
However, what is stopping me is Kia.

Unable to place an order, no clear price list just estimates and no build or delivery dates,

They can’t tell me if it will be registered as a commercial or a passenger, I don’t want it if it’s going to be classed as a commercial - lower road speeds, high insurance, high tax, lower residuals.


Hopefully they can get this sorted otherwise I may end up with one of those Stellantis EV passenger 8/9 seaters which seems like too much of a compromise with its rubbish real world range, poor residuals, old tech and basic warranty,

[ChocolateFrog]

Jon39 said:

Pistonheadsdicoverer said:

Do you know how I can get AT to show the passenger version of the ID Buzz? I can only find the van version. TIA.

I found rear seats, so presumably the correct versions.

Search;
Electric cars
Press Search
After that, refine your search to include;
Make VW
Model ID Buzz
Mileage Up to 100 miles.

That produced 23 advertisements, some of those cars unsold since pre-registration 2 years ago.








The new list prices (for depreciation lovers) appear to be in the £60,000s.

I guess if they've been pre registered for 2 years that's 2 years less of the luxury car tax to pay?

[Ecosseven]

I see that Kia have released a price for the base model with the 51 kWh battery and a WLTP range of 179 miles - £32,995.

Will be interesting if Kia can keep the larger battery model (71 kWh with a WLTP range of 249 miles) below £40k to avoid the 'luxury' car VED supplement.

Looks decent value against an ID buzz.

Good review by Thomas at Autogefhul here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwruFSK1tQ

Edited by Ecosseven on Sunday 15th June 19:56

[Quattr04.]

The problem with all the other EV vans is that they are just converted versions of diesel ones,

The t6 transporter was woeful, big e transit with a 67kwh battery is pitiful, vivaro and its siblings also crap, only ever seen them used by openreach on mass as they stay local to patch / home.

The only fleet I know with fully electric is Mitie, who have the buzz and I’ve now seen a few new shape transits being run by sky, again they are local patch

I think the new transporter is a decent van in higher trim levels, and won’t be as pricy as the buzz, plus it’s ground up

[Patch1875]

The PV5 like the buzz won’t be suitable for most certainly for business use due to just being way to small.

I’ve been looking at the Stelantis vans range isn’t too bad and the L2’s give a decent size in the back. Used they are a bargain compared to the diesels 2yo ones well under 20k.

[P675]

Must be hard to design I guess, the bigger they are the more heavy and draggy they become so you need a bigger battery for range which makes them heavier again and all of a sudden a van is £100k.

[distinctivedesign]

As with just about any EV, leasing or contract hire is the way to go - especially if via a limited company. The bargains are eye-watering.

Last year we contract hired a Mercedes e-Vito van with metallic paint over two years for £1500 down and £150 a month (both ex VAT). We weren't especially looking for an EV, but at that deal it was impossible to overlook. The range is only 160 miles (summer), but it's been fine so far, and costs buttons to run with overnight charging. The VW Buzz commercial was available for £99 a month a short while ago.

I have had a sneak peek at the Kia, as we have had a few of their cars on fleet, and they are promising some good business contract hire deals at launch. I personally loathe their current styling language but inside it was decently competitive. I noticed the strangely low armrest as well - odd.

Fleet wise, we have had EV6's, eNiros, and a Soul. The smaller cars were largely faultless in service - the EV6's were not.....

[Patch1875]

I would love a Buzz but annoying for about 3 months of the year I need the van to be bigger! Rest of the time it would be ideal.

Always wary of contract hire as they can get in a bit of a mess in the back with what I do. The Stelantis vans are tempting with the price 2nd hand this is probably my last van I will be getting.