Buying chargable hybrid petrol 4x4 any recommendations pls?
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Hi
Time for a new-ish car, 3-5 years old, low-ish mileage under 30k or so. £15k-£20k budget at a stretch.
Need a 4x4 as live on a hill and when it snows, it is an ice rink and even taxi won't come to our street.
So, was looking at Cupra Fermentor 1.4 with plug-in hybrid that would give me 29 miles on that give or take. But then found out it has dread wet chain?
What are your thoughts on above model and any alternatives you'd recommend?
Time for a new-ish car, 3-5 years old, low-ish mileage under 30k or so. £15k-£20k budget at a stretch.
Need a 4x4 as live on a hill and when it snows, it is an ice rink and even taxi won't come to our street.
So, was looking at Cupra Fermentor 1.4 with plug-in hybrid that would give me 29 miles on that give or take. But then found out it has dread wet chain?
What are your thoughts on above model and any alternatives you'd recommend?
My understanding is the Formentor is FWD only in hybrid trim.
The only 4WD PHEV I can think of within spec is the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. You should be able to get one of the later 2.4 engined ones before Mitsubishi left the UK, however I don t believe you d get 30+ miles, and the air-cooled batteries suffer from degradation. On the flip side, Mitsubishi know their 4x4 onions!
EDIT: Prius or RAV4, p haps? Believe they were available with PHEV and 4WD, with the rears powered by a separated electric motor at low speeds only.
The only 4WD PHEV I can think of within spec is the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV. You should be able to get one of the later 2.4 engined ones before Mitsubishi left the UK, however I don t believe you d get 30+ miles, and the air-cooled batteries suffer from degradation. On the flip side, Mitsubishi know their 4x4 onions!
EDIT: Prius or RAV4, p haps? Believe they were available with PHEV and 4WD, with the rears powered by a separated electric motor at low speeds only.
Edited by Jimbo. on Sunday 14th September 13:58
Edited by Jimbo. on Sunday 14th September 14:02
UncleAlbert said:
Don't like Toyota Rav4s.
What are issues with plug-in hybrids, any real life experiences.
I have reservations about the front end of the Toyota version, the Suzuki Across clone looks far better and cheaper too, still gets a 10 years warranty depending on having it serviced at the dealer, faster cars than they look.What are issues with plug-in hybrids, any real life experiences.
How about a Hyundai Tucson NX4 PHEV ?
4WD and around 36 to 40miles EV range.
All the original plug in versions (2020 to late 2023 ?) are 4WD.
The newer facelift version however comes in 2WD as standard and 4WD is an option.
If it has a separate infotainment screen built into the dash and a push button gear selector on the centre console - it's the non-facelift version. If the infotainment screen is higher up and the gear change is on the steering column, it's the facelift version.
I have had one for 3 years - economical, reliable and reasonably fast.
4WD and around 36 to 40miles EV range.
All the original plug in versions (2020 to late 2023 ?) are 4WD.
The newer facelift version however comes in 2WD as standard and 4WD is an option.
If it has a separate infotainment screen built into the dash and a push button gear selector on the centre console - it's the non-facelift version. If the infotainment screen is higher up and the gear change is on the steering column, it's the facelift version.
I have had one for 3 years - economical, reliable and reasonably fast.
Is there a reason for avoiding the Rav4/Across? If you want an all wheel drive PHEV SUV then they really are excellent.
Over 300 bhp, 60 in 5.5s, will do 50+ mpg all day long even if you don't plug it in, 45m real world range with 180 bhp as an EV. 10 year/100k overall warranty with 15 years unlimited mileage on the battery.
Take one for a drive, the drivetrain instantly makes the other options feel pretty old fashioned and weedy. Nice and robustly designed and feels like it'll last indefinitely too.
I live up a track on a hillside in Aberdeenshire and it does pretty well for what it is - you can definitely find it's limits compared to a proper heavy duty 4x4 but with decent winter tyres it'll generally go anywhere the ground clearance allows.
Over 300 bhp, 60 in 5.5s, will do 50+ mpg all day long even if you don't plug it in, 45m real world range with 180 bhp as an EV. 10 year/100k overall warranty with 15 years unlimited mileage on the battery.
Take one for a drive, the drivetrain instantly makes the other options feel pretty old fashioned and weedy. Nice and robustly designed and feels like it'll last indefinitely too.
I live up a track on a hillside in Aberdeenshire and it does pretty well for what it is - you can definitely find it's limits compared to a proper heavy duty 4x4 but with decent winter tyres it'll generally go anywhere the ground clearance allows.
Edited by Snow and Rocks on Sunday 14th September 17:52
UncleAlbert said:
Thank you good insight there, will take a look now.
Does it come with 'wet belt' at all?
Why the obsession with wet belt ? Serviced correctly the Ford is fine, with the Stellantis 1.2, change the belt and service it with the new 5w30 and it will probably still go bangDoes it come with 'wet belt' at all?
Bmw x3 comes as phev, as does the Range Rover Evoque and disco sport
I paid £20k last October for an 21 plate Across with 45k miles from a Suzuki main dealer so these should be an option too.
The Outlander really seems pretty crap in comparison - slow with limited EV range, terrible fuel economy once the EV range runs out and none of the low maintenance/reliability benefits of the Toyota Hybrid system.
The Outlander really seems pretty crap in comparison - slow with limited EV range, terrible fuel economy once the EV range runs out and none of the low maintenance/reliability benefits of the Toyota Hybrid system.
Thank you all feedback, keep them coming.
I have seen several video reviews of Rav4 but just not feeling, it would right fit.
Really liked Cupra Fermentor but range is fairly low on EV.
On the other hand EVs are dropping their values quite quickly and insurances can be problematic. I don't have any points and no claims discount of 10+ years protected.
Any other considerations?
I have seen several video reviews of Rav4 but just not feeling, it would right fit.
Really liked Cupra Fermentor but range is fairly low on EV.
On the other hand EVs are dropping their values quite quickly and insurances can be problematic. I don't have any points and no claims discount of 10+ years protected.
Any other considerations?
Ford Kuga, Lexus, Discovery Sport, Suzuki Vitara or anything with ground clearance and winter tyres. Or there is the x1, mini countryman …. But if you want reliability it has to be Toyota. Oh and no vw group petrol has a wet belt, the diesel has an oil pump driven by a belt that runs in oil but this is nothing new.
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