Intelligent Octopus Go - The Basics
Intelligent Octopus Go - The Basics
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s-x-i

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269 posts

68 months

Thursday 30th October
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Wanting to have a bit of a sense check having just had a home charger installed and switching to IOG.

Here is how I currently have everything set-up.

Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devices and set for 100% by 7am.

Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?

Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?

Edited by s-x-i on Monday 3rd November 15:25

jodypress

2,016 posts

293 months

Thursday 30th October
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s-x-i said:
Wanting to have a bit of a sense check having just had a home charger installed and switching to IOG.

Here is how I currently have everything set-up.

Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devises and set for 100% by 7am.

Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?

Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?
Yes your setup seems correct. IOG takes over charger.
I just setup IOG on Saturday and used it for the first time.
My understanding is that once you schedule on the Octopus app for say 100% by 10am the next day, as soon as you plug in it works out the schedule. You can see the time slots in the app. They are dynamic and do change. Whilst plugged in and when its charging the whole house is charged at 7p/kwh and you also have 11.30pm to 5.30am at 7p too.
I have solar pv and 20kw of batteries so charge up between 11.30pm and 5.30am most nights and can export out at 15p.

Hope this helps.

drgoatboy

1,920 posts

226 months

Correct set up. Let octopus control your charger and don't add schedules anywhere else. Just confuses the system.
Any charging slots that octopus give you are at the cheaper rate. It's quite often before 11:30 too.
(Sunny, windy Sunday afternoons for example you may find day time charging happens)

You should change the % you require via the octopus app to match your need, if you only need a little top up in theory you shouldn't ask for 100%.
Personally I have found that doesn't make too much difference to when you get a charging slot but others seem to think it does.

Gone fishing

7,911 posts

143 months

Seems ok, i presume as you’ve connected the charger to IOG the car doesn’t start charging when you plug in. It does if the car is connected to IOG and only stops when IOG realise it’s plugged in at home which can be 5 mins, it then stops the charge and creates the schedule. Something to look out for.

Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they’ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.



As you’ve a phev the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you’re likely to want it all every day.

raspy

2,105 posts

113 months

s-x-i said:
Wanting to have a bit of a sense check having just had a home charger installed and switching to IOG.

Here is how I currently have everything set-up.

Car (Toyota Rav4 PHEV) - No charging schedule set.
Charger (Zappi GLO) - No charge schedule set and set to 'Smart Charging'.
IOG - Charger set-up in My Devises and set for 100% by 7am.

Questions???
-Is this the correct set-up?
-If I plug the car in prior to the cheaper rate say 8pm, and IOG schedules a charge prior to 11:30pm, will this be at the cheaper rate? (Spoke to a guy at Octopus yesterday who said it wouldn't be)
-If a charge is scheduled prior to 11:30pm, does the whole house get this cheaper rate during this time?

Anything else that I am missing or any other tips?
Octopus have a comprehensive FAQ for Intelligent Go

https://octopus.energy/blog/intelligent-go-faqs/

s-x-i

Original Poster:

269 posts

68 months

Yesterday (15:30)
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All seems to be working so far on the above way that I have set it up. Only been one hic-up when the car never charged the other night so will keep an eye on it.

Gone fishing said:
Seems ok, i presume as you've connected the charger to IOG the car doesn't start charging when you plug in. It does if the car is connected to IOG and only stops when IOG realise it s plugged in at home which can be 5 mins, it then stops the charge and creates the schedule. Something to look out for.

Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.

As you've a PHEV the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you re likely to want it all every day.
I have the charger set-up through IOG as my car is not listed, so no issue with the car starting to charge when initially plugged in.

On the App I can see the cheaper rates coming through, but like you mention, it takes around 24 hours for any scheduled charge outwith the main hours to switch to the cheaper rate.

Gone fishing

7,911 posts

143 months

Yesterday (16:34)
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s-x-i said:
All seems to be working so far on the above way that I have set it up. Only been one hic-up when the car never charged the other night so will keep an eye on it.

Gone fishing said:
Seems ok, i presume as you've connected the charger to IOG the car doesn't start charging when you plug in. It does if the car is connected to IOG and only stops when IOG realise it s plugged in at home which can be 5 mins, it then stops the charge and creates the schedule. Something to look out for.

Any slot IOG schedule is at the cheap rate. In the app you can effectively see the cheaper rates after 24 hours or so once they ve pulled in your smart meter data, just look at the day view, you can toggle between £ and kWh, and on the £ tab the slots are coloured differently for peak/off peak. The below shows I had cheap until 7:30.

As you've a PHEV the battery may as well be charged to 100% as you re likely to want it all every day.
I have the charger set-up through IOG as my car is not listed, so no issue with the car starting to charge when initially plugged in.

On the App I can see the cheaper rates coming through, but like you mention, it takes around 24 hours for any scheduled charge outwith the main hours to switch to the cheaper rate.
Ther API which I use in Home Automation also used to show the current charge rate which was useful as a cross check it was cheap at the time, (and also potentially for triggering other consumption) but they've changed it to only show the default rates so it doesn't reflect the additional cheap rate slots. It's a shame as I had a script at one point to stop the car if the rate was peak but sadly thats now pointless.

PaulWoof

1,709 posts

174 months

Yesterday (18:30)
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The bottlecapdave plugin for home assistant has current rate etc:
https://github.com/BottlecapDave/HomeAssistant-Oct...

it has a few variables to use.
current rate
off peak electricity
intelligent dispatching
intelligent state