Charging in Belgium and Holland
Discussion
I've done Belgium, no particular issues charging. I'm fairly sure Holland is fine too; it's 'FastNed' who publish all those useful charging curves for the various EV models.
General recommendation is to ensure you have the Electroverse and Tesla apps signed up and set up on your phone, those plus a contactless bank card should cover you.
The last time I was in the neighborhood, IONITY was all the high-speed charging needed..This was before the Chargeleague agreement, it seems now you can use Fastned stations with the same contract and price. So it would be hard to find a place where you'd be more than 50km/30 miles from a cheap fast charger.
IONITY power for a month would be my approach, subscription pretty much pays for itself with the first charge.
We did some AC charging with the Hyundai charge card - IIRC more expensive or kWh, but convenient. Chargers everywhere, but not sure if the slow ones would have worked with a credit card.
IONITY power for a month would be my approach, subscription pretty much pays for itself with the first charge.
We did some AC charging with the Hyundai charge card - IIRC more expensive or kWh, but convenient. Chargers everywhere, but not sure if the slow ones would have worked with a credit card.
Edited by PetrolHeadInRecovery on Saturday 24th January 14:22
We've been all over Europe in our EV. France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway. There are actually many more chargers in Europe. We have an ChargeMap card that's worked well, and got a few chargers working when the normal Credit card didn't work.
I've never used Ionity, mainly because they tend to the be most expensive chargers.
I've never used Ionity, mainly because they tend to the be most expensive chargers.
gangzoom said:
We've been all over Europe in our EV. France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway. There are actually many more chargers in Europe. We have an ChargeMap card that's worked well, and got a few chargers working when the normal Credit card didn't work.
I've never used Ionity, mainly because they tend to the be most expensive chargers.
Are there cheaper high-speed charging options than IONITY Power subscription when you drive a bit more? Genuinely curious.I've never used Ionity, mainly because they tend to the be most expensive chargers.
Thinking about a typical 300kWh/month (holiday trip, one way). With IONITY Power, it's not too bad even in Italy (~150€). Close to 270€ if you pay with a credit card, which is indeed a lot. ChargeMap prices seemed closer to € 1/kWh for the fast chargers (a bit less for Tesla, but not much).
Nordics are in a different league, a bit over 80€ for 300kWh (going by Finnish rates, but Sweden and Denmark are usually very close, last I checked.
gangzoom said:
Our EV road trip experience however is ABIT atypical, coming up to 9 years and well over 100k+ miles the idea of having to pay even 1p for Rapid charging is abit alien to us.
Old Model S, right? I have been wondering about them as a used option. How are the other running costs? Edit/PS: psychologically, I have to admit finding free electricity oddly attractive - much more than it matters in the big picture, taking into account road tolls, taxes, insurance, depreciation,... Alas, my experiences are limited to hotels with free chargers and Bosnia.
Edited by PetrolHeadInRecovery on Sunday 25th January 08:26
PetrolHeadInRecovery said:
Are there cheaper high-speed charging options than IONITY Power subscription when you drive a bit more? Genuinely curious.
Thinking about a typical 300kWh/month (holiday trip, one way). With IONITY Power, it's not too bad even in Italy (~150 ). Close to 270 if you pay with a credit card, which is indeed a lot. ChargeMap prices seemed closer to 1/kWh for the fast chargers (a bit less for Tesla, but not much).
Nordics are in a different league, a bit over 80 for 300kWh (going by Finnish rates, but Sweden and Denmark are usually very close, last I checked.
The open to all Tesla chargers I look at in Holland are a lot less Thinking about a typical 300kWh/month (holiday trip, one way). With IONITY Power, it's not too bad even in Italy (~150 ). Close to 270 if you pay with a credit card, which is indeed a lot. ChargeMap prices seemed closer to 1/kWh for the fast chargers (a bit less for Tesla, but not much).
Nordics are in a different league, a bit over 80 for 300kWh (going by Finnish rates, but Sweden and Denmark are usually very close, last I checked.
Eg first one au click on:-
Look like great coverage, if you see it on the app (with no Tesla registered) it’s open to all
RotorRambler said:
I was talking about Italy, where the charging prices are generally almost UK-horrible (we tend to do the Aosta - Lecce - Aosta trek pretty often). In general, Supercharger prices seem close to IONITY Power prices (unless you charge at night, at least in the Netherlands). In our case, most of the Superchargers would also be noticeably slower at about 50% of IONITY/Fastned speeds (800V car, so a 18 minute stop would turn into a 30+ minute one)
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