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Teem50

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247 months

giveitfish

4,279 posts

237 months

Saturday 28th February
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In the immortal words of Scotty - “Ye cannae change the laws of physics”

ashenfie

2,230 posts

69 months

Saturday 28th February
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The hydrogen buses work perfectly well in Glasgow, must be something to do being nearer the equator.

They are hiding behind their own incompetence as they ordered buses but no contracts to supply hydrogen. So the hydrogen station they planned to use has not had any for a few years now.

Hopefully this time they will order charging points with the buses.


uktrailmonster

9,931 posts

223 months

Saturday 28th February
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ashenfie said:
The hydrogen buses work perfectly well in Glasgow, must be something to do being nearer the equator.

They are hiding behind their own incompetence as they ordered buses but no contracts to supply hydrogen. So the hydrogen station they planned to use has not had any for a few years now.

Hopefully this time they will order charging points with the buses.
So you think it could have been successful if they had just ordered some hydrogen? Wasn’t it a partnership with BP as the supplier?

plfrench

4,272 posts

291 months

Saturday 28th February
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EV buses seem to be the norm now near us. Leicester and Nottingham have both had a significant portion of their fleet as EV for a while now, and I noticed recently that both Arriva and Kinch bus companies in Loughborough seem to have fully switched over to EV now too. Whole load of 25 plate ones. No need for anything else for these town and city bus routes.

Mabosh

340 posts

209 months

Saturday 28th February
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ashenfie said:
The hydrogen buses work perfectly well in Glasgow, must be something to do being nearer the equator.

They are hiding behind their own incompetence as they ordered buses but no contracts to supply hydrogen. So the hydrogen station they planned to use has not had any for a few years now.

Hopefully this time they will order charging points with the buses.
There are no hydrogen buses in Glasgow, plenty of battery electric though.

TheRainMaker

7,665 posts

265 months

Saturday 28th February
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Mabosh said:
There are no hydrogen buses in Glasgow, plenty of battery electric though.
Might be talking about the 7 million spent on 20 hydrogen bin lorries.

banghead

Mabosh

340 posts

209 months

Saturday 28th February
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TheRainMaker said:
Mabosh said:
There are no hydrogen buses in Glasgow, plenty of battery electric though.
Might be talking about the 7 million spent on 20 hydrogen bin lorries.

banghead
Looks like that too has been errrrrr........binned!

Glasgow council £7 million contract to buy hydrogen powered trucks cancelled - Glasgow Live https://share.google/rKFv3KA3fDLfNrlQQ

Aberdeen has previous history with hydrogen buses. There was a fleet of very expensive three axle single deckers in 2014 which ran sporadically for a couple of years before mothballing and eventual scrapping.

I'm not sure if hydrogen is ever going to take off (dreadful pun intended).

ashenfie

2,230 posts

69 months

Sunday 1st March
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Mabosh said:
TheRainMaker said:
Mabosh said:
There are no hydrogen buses in Glasgow, plenty of battery electric though.
Might be talking about the 7 million spent on 20 hydrogen bin lorries.

banghead
Looks like that too has been errrrrr........binned!

Glasgow council £7 million contract to buy hydrogen powered trucks cancelled - Glasgow Live https://share.google/rKFv3KA3fDLfNrlQQ

Aberdeen has previous history with hydrogen buses. There was a fleet of very expensive three axle single deckers in 2014 which ran sporadically for a couple of years before mothballing and eventual scrapping.

I'm not sure if hydrogen is ever going to take off (dreadful pun intended).
They have been operating since 2015. The fleet moved up 25 and was lease to first buses. The issue came that first buses said they would send them back unless the council would guarantee to hydrogen fuel, they didn’t.

Glasgow bin trucks are going to remain diesel I believe, as trails suggest that EV ones are not good for hilly areas.

Either way all very expensive.



Doesitdrive

549 posts

4 months

Sunday 1st March
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ashenfie said:
The hydrogen buses work perfectly well in Glasgow, must be something to do being nearer the equator.

They are hiding behind their own incompetence as they ordered buses but no contracts to supply hydrogen. So the hydrogen station they planned to use has not had any for a few years now.

Hopefully this time they will order charging points with the buses.
The bus depot near me has plenty of charging points just not the electric to supply them, well, they have from very large diesel generators.

Expensive indeed, one new BYD got 10 yards out and destroyed itself. A pile of ash and molten metal.

ashenfie

2,230 posts

69 months

Sunday 1st March
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Doesitdrive said:
ashenfie said:
The hydrogen buses work perfectly well in Glasgow, must be something to do being nearer the equator.

They are hiding behind their own incompetence as they ordered buses but no contracts to supply hydrogen. So the hydrogen station they planned to use has not had any for a few years now.

Hopefully this time they will order charging points with the buses.
The bus depot near me has plenty of charging points just not the electric to supply them, well, they have from very large diesel generators.

Expensive indeed, one new BYD got 10 yards out and destroyed itself. A pile of ash and molten metal.
Unfortunately the same breed of clowns that don't understand the term "due diligence" and happy spend millions of someone else's money. Aberdeen council tax is up 10% for the 2nd year running.

Doesitdrive

549 posts

4 months

Sunday 1st March
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ashenfie said:
Unfortunately the same breed of clowns that don't understand the term "due diligence" and happy spend millions of someone else's money. Aberdeen council tax is up 10% for the 2nd year running.
The law says 5% or just under I think actually, is the maximum a council can raise council tax. Anything above requires a referendum.

Labour have given dispensation for to ignore the referendum.
Most Labour councils have done just that and I think 10% will become the norm.


_Rodders_

958 posts

42 months

Sunday 1st March
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I wonder how many people from the Hydrogen thread work in local government?

Because for everyone else it's been known that it was a complete deadend for more than a decade.

Staggering the sums that are bandied around in that article for a few buses covering 1 medium sized town.