Toyota 1million mile battery warranty
Toyota 1million mile battery warranty
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bennno

Original Poster:

14,988 posts

294 months


Toyota have just announced a 10 year, 1 million mile battery warranty…… that’s some confidence.

The new chr+ is surprisingly well priced, looks decent and is nice to drive with a huge range.

What warranty do Tesla give in their batteries?

kambites

70,915 posts

246 months

The mileage limit is a gimmick. So few people do 100k miles a year that it's a complete irrelevance. It's a ten year battery warranty, which is decent but nothing hugely exceptional.

Mr Pointy

12,950 posts

184 months

Define "warranty" though. 20% of original capacity but still working might be classed as not eligable for replacement.

Caddyshack

14,251 posts

231 months

kambites said:
The mileage limit is a gimmick. So few people do 100k miles a year that it's a complete irrelevance. It's a ten year battery warranty, which is decent but nothing hugely exceptional.
I imagine that if the warranty requires full dealer history then the franchises would do very well out of the bills if they were going 100,000 miles per year for 10 years.

bennno

Original Poster:

14,988 posts

294 months

Mr Pointy said:
Define "warranty" though. 20% of original capacity but still working might be classed as not eligable for replacement.
Its defined as >70% or they will replace the battery.

raspy

2,566 posts

119 months

bennno said:
Toyota have just announced a 10 year, 1 million mile battery warranty that s some confidence.

The new chr+ is surprisingly well priced, looks decent and is nice to drive with a huge range.

What warranty do Tesla give in their batteries?
Marketing gimmick, imho. They know people aren't going to be driving a CHR+ for a million miles or anywhere close to it. They have done their research on existing chr owners and how much they drive every year.

So if you buy a chr+ today and in 9 years time, it's retained 71% capacity for the final year of the warranty, Toyota won't do anything about it.

"The battery warranty is provided through an initial eight years’ manufacturer warranty from the vehicle’s registration date. An additional 12 months’ warranty is included in every qualifying service at an authorised Toyota dealer, to up to 10 years from the vehicle’s registration date. The battery is further guaranteed to retain at least 70 per cent of its original capacity, for up to one million miles or 10 years, whichever comes first, subject to annual Toyota EV health check."

https://media.toyota.co.uk/all-new-toyota-c-hr-eli...


bennno

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14,988 posts

294 months


Don’t really think it’s a gimmick, it’ll do wonders for used values and to nullify the naysayers who suggest batteries don’t last.

Decent for taxi use… think Tesla give 8 years 100k max - who wouldn’t want 10 years and effectively unlimited miles

plfrench

4,466 posts

293 months

Well Toyota needed to do something to try and regain some lost ground! They really dropped the ball with bringing EV solutions to market so slowly, they've got some serious catching up to do and this warranty will really help those who are new to EVs and a bit scared of the change to jump in. Makes sense.

raspy

2,566 posts

119 months

bennno said:
Don t really think it s a gimmick, it ll do wonders for used values and to nullify the naysayers who suggest batteries don t last.

Decent for taxi use think Tesla give 8 years 100k max - who wouldn t want 10 years and effectively unlimited miles
The market will tell us.

In 12 months time let’s see how many of these particular cars they will have sold in the UK market.

Personally, I’m not expecting that everybody will cancel their Tesla model 3 or model Y order to get a Toyota EV, but anything is possible.


Murph7355

41,023 posts

281 months

plfrench said:
Well Toyota needed to do something to try and regain some lost ground! They really dropped the ball with bringing EV solutions to market so slowly, they've got some serious catching up to do and this warranty will really help those who are new to EVs and a bit scared of the change to jump in. Makes sense.
This all over.

Been saying for a while that if manufacturers want to aid the residuals of their BEV cars, this is one step to take. (Even though it's way above what you would have had on ICE).

andrew-6xade

543 posts

28 months

It's purely to generate service income.

Major service on a Corolla Hybrid is now close to £450 so not cheap.

cliffords

3,769 posts

48 months

Battery warranty is not valid if the vehicle is used for home electricity storage in conjunction with home solar generation.
So you can't use it as a home store and take it off when your at peak rates .

RotorRambler

960 posts

15 months

andrew-6xade said:
It's purely to generate service income.

Major service on a Corolla Hybrid is now close to £450 so not cheap.
Year 1: Intermediate (£190)
Year 2: Full (£310)
Year 3: Intermediate (£190)
…and so on (alternating)

More than a Tesla
Less than a Skoda Ev

turbomoggie

316 posts

129 months

Toyota fan here. Imo this seems like a great deal. Very reassuring. My next daily will probably be electric

andrew-6xade

543 posts

28 months

Saturday
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RotorRambler said:
andrew-6xade said:
It's purely to generate service income.

Major service on a Corolla Hybrid is now close to £450 so not cheap.
Year 1: Intermediate (£190)
Year 2: Full (£310)
Year 3: Intermediate (£190)
and so on (alternating)

More than a Tesla
Less than a Skoda Ev
Better than the Corolla I guess.

bennno

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14,988 posts

294 months

Saturday
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andrew-6xade said:
Better than the Corolla I guess.
Corolla is 320/420 alternating for minor / major service. When you consider that includes a 12 month / 10k warranty extension it’s relatively cheap.

Lots of land rovers coming in as part exchange, service costs 1k, warranty extension 1k with repairs on top plus huge cost of diesel.

Corolla’s just don’t go wrong, plenty of 300k mile taxi’s locally.


andrew-6xade

543 posts

28 months

Saturday
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bennno said:
andrew-6xade said:
Better than the Corolla I guess.
Corolla is 320/420 alternating for minor / major service. When you consider that includes a 12 month / 10k warranty extension it s relatively cheap.

Lots of land rovers coming in as part exchange, service costs 1k, warranty extension 1k with repairs on top plus huge cost of diesel.

Corolla s just don t go wrong, plenty of 300k mile taxi s locally.
My Toyota dealer has always been excellent too. Far better than the German brands.

Cobnapint

9,687 posts

176 months

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Mr Pointy said:
Define "warranty" though. 20% of original capacity but still working might be classed as not eligable for replacement.
And it's easy to forget, the other very expensive bits, the charging module, converter and rectifiers etc, aren't included in the 8 years warranty either.

768

19,412 posts

121 months

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raspy said:
Marketing gimmick, imho. They know people aren't going to be driving a CHR+ for a million miles or anywhere close to it. They have done their research on existing chr owners and how much they drive every year.

So if you buy a chr+ today and in 9 years time, it's retained 71% capacity for the final year of the warranty, Toyota won't do anything about it.

"The battery warranty is provided through an initial eight years manufacturer warranty from the vehicle s registration date. An additional 12 months warranty is included in every qualifying service at an authorised Toyota dealer, to up to 10 years from the vehicle s registration date. The battery is further guaranteed to retain at least 70 per cent of its original capacity, for up to one million miles or 10 years, whichever comes first, subject to annual Toyota EV health check."

https://media.toyota.co.uk/all-new-toyota-c-hr-eli...
But if you're at 69% in 9 years time... is it still a marketing gimmick?

RotorRambler

960 posts

15 months

Saturday
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Meaning
““Your extended battery warranty is conditional on paying for regular servicing.”

Just got to commit to doing it by the book for the 10 years!