Latest SHS serial hybrid vehicles the way forward?
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My wife has run a Hybrid Yaris since 2014 it has been brilliant, we get it serviced just down the road at a pretty good main dealer in Waterlooville who also service my GR Yaris. Time the replace the Hybrid is coming up (100,000 miles near) and my attention has been drawn to some of the latest Chinese SUV's I am convinced the latest series type drive hybrid vehicles are for me, I like the idea of charging overnight then on long journeys rely on the petrol engine to eliminate range anxiety. Four wheel drive is an option on some which I think will suit me. Has anyone run a 4wd serial hybrid for any length of time and what is your opinion of them.
I saw a video the other day where someone was bragging that they were going to do these first fill up of the PHEV Jaecoo after 5 months.
They would have been better just buying an EV in the first place. If you are taking 5 months to use the fuel up for the times you exceed the 70 odd miles they do on electric then you don’t really need a petrol engine as a backup.
They would have been better just buying an EV in the first place. If you are taking 5 months to use the fuel up for the times you exceed the 70 odd miles they do on electric then you don’t really need a petrol engine as a backup.
Any car with an engine over 2 litres is the worst of all worlds. All that extra cost, weight and complication, and you can never use the performance anyway.
Any electric car with a battery over 50 kWh is the worst of all worlds. All that extra cost and weight, and you could easily just stop to charge more often.
Am I doing this right?
Isn't it funny how people who don't like hybrids/PHEVs always feel the need to trot out cliches when someone asks for actual user experiences.
First year anniversary of owning a PHEV Citroen C5X. Yesterday and today we've done 6 round trips to our local town On less than one overnight off peak charge. And that is with only a 12.4 kWh battery. In a month or two we plan to hit the Italian lakes for a couple of weeks from South West France. From last year's experience of the Scottish Highlands from South West France we can expect 50 mpg with no charge in the battery.
I know electric car ranges, charge speeds and second hand prices are all moving in the right direction, but when I was looking 12-18 months ago none of the desirable electric cars were in budget. (Second hand mid 20,000 euros). I have no regrets about the choice we made. Will the replacement be a BEV? Almost certainly, but that is 2-4 years away probably.
OP - you are the only one who knows the total distance you cover, and your mix of short and long journeys. But given the length of time that hybrid powertrains have been around, and the numbers in which they are selling I'd be fairly sanguine about choosing that technology if you think it suits your use case.
One other observation - if your medium length journeys are are at a steady 70-80 mph, you will see a lot lower range, and if that range is only 70-80 miles to start with it makes a big difference.
Any electric car with a battery over 50 kWh is the worst of all worlds. All that extra cost and weight, and you could easily just stop to charge more often.
Am I doing this right?
Isn't it funny how people who don't like hybrids/PHEVs always feel the need to trot out cliches when someone asks for actual user experiences.
First year anniversary of owning a PHEV Citroen C5X. Yesterday and today we've done 6 round trips to our local town On less than one overnight off peak charge. And that is with only a 12.4 kWh battery. In a month or two we plan to hit the Italian lakes for a couple of weeks from South West France. From last year's experience of the Scottish Highlands from South West France we can expect 50 mpg with no charge in the battery.
I know electric car ranges, charge speeds and second hand prices are all moving in the right direction, but when I was looking 12-18 months ago none of the desirable electric cars were in budget. (Second hand mid 20,000 euros). I have no regrets about the choice we made. Will the replacement be a BEV? Almost certainly, but that is 2-4 years away probably.
OP - you are the only one who knows the total distance you cover, and your mix of short and long journeys. But given the length of time that hybrid powertrains have been around, and the numbers in which they are selling I'd be fairly sanguine about choosing that technology if you think it suits your use case.
One other observation - if your medium length journeys are are at a steady 70-80 mph, you will see a lot lower range, and if that range is only 70-80 miles to start with it makes a big difference.
I've not long bought my first hybrid (Dacia Duster 140 full hybrid) and I'm really rather pleased with it.
I've come from a history of ratty old petrol and diesel models, and due to parking issues, have no way of charging an EV, so self charging hybrid was the logical solution.
1.6 auto lump is nothing special, but it's smooth enough. Combined with the electric gearbox/motor though, it's rather good. Plenty of power and torque, able to drive and on full EV mode for a surprisingly long time sub 30mph, and returning an average of 60mpg with a range of about 600 miles.
I do find myself trying to keep it in EV mode as much as possible, as it's notably smoother and "punchier", but overall I'm pleased with the whole package and would have another in a heartbeat, possibly one of the non ICE driven, range extender types that seem to be getting more popular though.
I've come from a history of ratty old petrol and diesel models, and due to parking issues, have no way of charging an EV, so self charging hybrid was the logical solution.
1.6 auto lump is nothing special, but it's smooth enough. Combined with the electric gearbox/motor though, it's rather good. Plenty of power and torque, able to drive and on full EV mode for a surprisingly long time sub 30mph, and returning an average of 60mpg with a range of about 600 miles.
I do find myself trying to keep it in EV mode as much as possible, as it's notably smoother and "punchier", but overall I'm pleased with the whole package and would have another in a heartbeat, possibly one of the non ICE driven, range extender types that seem to be getting more popular though.
RoadToad84 said:
I've not long bought my first hybrid (Dacia Duster 140 full hybrid) and I'm really rather pleased with it.
I've come from a history of ratty old petrol and diesel models, and due to parking issues, have no way of charging an EV, so self charging hybrid was the logical solution.
1.6 auto lump is nothing special, but it's smooth enough. Combined with the electric gearbox/motor though, it's rather good. Plenty of power and torque, able to drive and on full EV mode for a surprisingly long time sub 30mph, and returning an average of 60mpg with a range of about 600 miles.
I do find myself trying to keep it in EV mode as much as possible, as it's notably smoother and "punchier", but overall I'm pleased with the whole package and would have another in a heartbeat, possibly one of the non ICE driven, range extender types that seem to be getting more popular though.
Showing my ignorance of how these work...... Is the 60MPG average achieved without any electric charging? i.e. is all the battery charging dome via the petrol engine?I've come from a history of ratty old petrol and diesel models, and due to parking issues, have no way of charging an EV, so self charging hybrid was the logical solution.
1.6 auto lump is nothing special, but it's smooth enough. Combined with the electric gearbox/motor though, it's rather good. Plenty of power and torque, able to drive and on full EV mode for a surprisingly long time sub 30mph, and returning an average of 60mpg with a range of about 600 miles.
I do find myself trying to keep it in EV mode as much as possible, as it's notably smoother and "punchier", but overall I'm pleased with the whole package and would have another in a heartbeat, possibly one of the non ICE driven, range extender types that seem to be getting more popular though.
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