Speed traps
Speed traps
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Davwlk

Original Poster:

304 posts

221 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Are gadgets which warn in advance of speed traps still illegal in France?

DS240

5,651 posts

247 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Yes. Dedicated detectors for sure, not sure on position with sat nav which also warns of sights as a function.

But then some new road maps also show long term fixed sights and the gendarmes aren't going to rip up your map because of this.

RobbyJ

1,824 posts

251 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Is it illegal to take a GPS based device like my Origin B2 that only has a UK database?

There is a nice little iPhone app called Avertinoo (needs roaming data access though) that relies on other users in France to update on the fly where traps are. It also tells you if you are following other users ahead of you and they alert if the coast is clear. If you're the guy in front then it tells you this too, it's pretty cool, I wish we had the app well used in the UK too.

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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RobbyJ said:
Is it illegal to take a GPS based device like my Origin B2 that only has a UK database?
If in doubt, don't. Or put it out of the way when you're in France. I think you'll get away with a satnav which happens to have speed camera sites marked (I think my TomTom Live also has live updates and the ability to flag temporary sites on the go.

In my experience the other very valuable speed camera location device is the French motorist - they're quite good at flashing you to warn you of traps, even if your car does have British plates wink

joncon

1,515 posts

252 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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when you go through the payage on the motorways the boys in blue are sometimes stood by the tolls having a look at your cars checking such devices.
dont risk it.

The Leaper

5,667 posts

235 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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If there is a speed camera sign by the road you're on then French law requires there to be a fully operating fixed camera shortly afterwards, so believe the sign! Non fixed cameras that do not need to have any forwarnings are all over the place so beware of these.

R.

J B L

4,217 posts

244 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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As far as I recall: dedicated radar detector = big no no. Heavy fine and more if they find you pretty.

GPS based device = no problem.

NormanD

3,208 posts

257 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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RobbyJ said:
Is it illegal to take a GPS based device like my Origin B2 that only has a UK database?

There is a nice little iPhone app called Avertinoo (needs roaming data access though) that relies on other users in France to update on the fly where traps are. It also tells you if you are following other users ahead of you and they alert if the coast is clear. If you're the guy in front then it tells you this too, it's pretty cool, I wish we had the app well used in the UK too.
As far as I know Data bassed devices are legal, there for showing known possitions

The type that are illegal are the type that Detect where a site is, via radar etc

NormanD

3,208 posts

257 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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J B L said:
Heavy fine and more if they find you pretty.
Do you meen have to pay in kind, what ever other assets you may have!!!

DS240

5,651 posts

247 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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I have heard a tale of such device being placed under the wheel of the gendarmes vehicle, driven over and the owner told to pick up the pieces!

slarnge

364 posts

220 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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DS240 said:
I have heard a tale of such device being placed under the wheel of the gendarmes vehicle, driven over and the owner told to pick up the pieces!
Yes! that is very true.I wouldnt risk it.

J B L

4,217 posts

244 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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DS240 said:
I have heard a tale of such device being placed under the wheel of the gendarmes vehicle, driven over and the owner told to pick up the pieces!
They are tough... you should see what they used to do to our mates' scooters when they found they had a big bore kit (70cc or more) fitted, no trial, not even a fine.... haaaa back in the days.











Through the engine. Go explain this one to your parents hehe













RobbyJ

1,824 posts

251 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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About 10 years me and a group of mates were on a trip back from the south of France. We were stopped at a services and when we came back there were two John Dom's inspecting our cars (we had left our radar detector brackets on our wind screens). We were in no rush so we all sat down at a table about 100 meters away and watched them get bored. About 10 mins later they just walked straight over to us and asked if they were our cars. We admitted they were and they asked to search them so we gave them the detectors they were looking for. We were pleading ignorance in broken French not letting on one of our mates was French and that we didn’t know they were illegal. I had the entire kitty of cash in my wallet for petrol and tolls and as we were all spent up after the trip it was pretty much all the cash we had. When I heard one of the Police say to a mate they wanted to fine us about £1000 each and destroy the detectors I hid the cash in my car. We all pleaded poverty (they went through all our wallets) and we were very polite and they let us go with a warning, but took the detectors for destruction. My French mate actually said the officers were taking to each other saying they felt sorry for us and didn’t think we genuinely had enough money to get home lol! It sounds a bit dodgy on their part but it was all very official with a tonne of paper work and sealed evidence bags for each detector. Overall though with a little slight of hand and being polite we got off very lightly. In addition my detector saved my neck on the way down when I was doing about 140mph behind some bikes, the radar alert went off, I hit the brakes and they all roared past the trap and then they all got collared at the next toll. All in all probably worth losing the detector for. I hasten to add I’m much older and wiser now! wink

lowdrag

13,183 posts

242 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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The Coyote detector is legal in France, but dedicated systems lead to an on the spot fine of 750 euros and confiscation of the device. GPS based systems are all OK.

YRRunner

1,652 posts

245 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Road Angel Professional - legal? It's GPS but has the shared alert function for mobile cams and guns. Thanks.

indyxe

343 posts

212 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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I got flashed just before going into the tunnel at Rouen back in 2008, I,m still waiting for the fine ?.

rapidstu

9 posts

192 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Fixed cameras dont seem to be a problem, i just wave as it flashes. But if you get collared by the boys in blue the fines are heavy, really fun speeds can see you car confiscated untill you remortgage to pay the fine!

blueg33

46,311 posts

253 months

Friday 13th May 2011
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I have an ap for Blackberry that works on live data uploaded by users and a database. It needs roaming data but works very well in France, I used it in the summer, its called Trapster and also works in the UK

andyps

7,819 posts

311 months

Saturday 14th May 2011
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The Leaper said:
If there is a speed camera sign by the road you're on then French law requires there to be a fully operating fixed camera shortly afterwards, so believe the sign! Non fixed cameras that do not need to have any forwarnings are all over the place so beware of these.

R.
There are variations on the sign now which point out that there might be a mobile trap ahead rather than just a fixed camera. Also, the distance from the sign to camera can be up to 2km, although it seems the new rules will mean no signs.