No V5 or V5C
No V5 or V5C
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B.J.W

Original Poster:

5,873 posts

244 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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Morning all, quick question ref driving to Le Mans next week.

The V5 for my Tuscan has not arrived yet and DVLA are saying that it could be another 2/3 weeks before it does. I transferred a personal plate over a few weeks back.

Thing is, I appear to have mislaid my V5C (which had the old number plate on the document), so if my V5 does not arrive I don't have either.

Is a V5 definitive proof of ownership? Not intending to get pulled over, but if I do I know the V5 is something the Gendarmes will ask for. Is there anything I can substitute - a bill of purchase etc?

Thanks

Ben

RJames

753 posts

219 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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Not sure what the situation is now with V5's tbh as the latest release of V5 document has massive print on it saying "THIS IS NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP".

I guess as long as you have the relevent insurance documents that is all that matters.

NormanD

3,208 posts

257 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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I ALWAYS photocopy the V5 before sending off to the DVLA

Sods Law the BiB want to see it when you haven't got it

Camberwell

114 posts

243 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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It's not really necessary - they just want to see something official that validates you are the rightful owner - I just take what i can find, usually an MOT or repair bill with my name on it.


t1grm

4,657 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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Go to your local DVLA office and apply for a V379 temporary registration certificate. They will issue one on the spot and it is valid until the original arrives.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...

"The registration certificate may take up to four weeks to arrive. If you need to travel during this time you’ll need to apply for a temporary registration certificate (V379), available from a DVLA local office. You'll need to provide proof of ID and there’s a fee for the service."

t1grm

4,657 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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Camberwell said:
It's not really necessary - they just want to see something official that validates you are the rightful owner - I just take what i can find, usually an MOT or repair bill with my name on it.
Not ture. You can be fined if you don't have the V5 in the car.

thehype

140 posts

250 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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t1grm said:
Not ture. You can be fined if you don't have the V5 in the car.
And do you know if it has to be the original or will a photocopy do? In fact does the same apply to MOT, Insurance certificate, etc.

t1grm

4,657 posts

313 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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thehype said:
And do you know if it has to be the original or will a photocopy do? In fact does the same apply to MOT, Insurance certificate, etc.
I thought original but I don't think they will mind a photo copy. Insurance is also required. They won't have a clue what an MOT is so will never ask to see one biggrin

Gary11

4,162 posts

230 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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RJames said:
Not sure what the situation is now with V5's tbh as the latest release of V5 document has massive print on it saying "THIS IS NOT PROOF OF OWNERSHIP".

I guess as long as you have the relevent insurance documents that is all that matters.
It never has been proof of ownership but details of registered keeper and address where car is kept.
hth

B.J.W

Original Poster:

5,873 posts

244 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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Well, I have a bill of sale, insurance, and the number plate transfer authorisation. The 1st will have to suffice as proof of ownership. In the meantime, fingers crossed that the V5 arrives by Wednesday. Thanks Chaps

Gary11

4,162 posts

230 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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The ideal scenario, if pulled and they attempt to take the car is being able to prove you DONT own it,then under their law IIRC they cannot seize the car especially helpfull if its registered to a "friend" or the previous keeper!


Not a perfect science as some one is bound to say it made no difference in their case but I saw 3 cars 2yrs ago stopped like this for speeding way over the limit the one registered to someone else was the only one not taken.

sone

4,612 posts

267 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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3750 Euro fine and a weekend in Le Bastille. Happy daysbiggrin

B.J.W

Original Poster:

5,873 posts

244 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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sone said:
3750 Euro fine and a weekend in Le Bastille. Happy daysbiggrin
Yeah, Right! Grumpy Old Sod.

The new V5 should have been issued yesterday, in the meantime I have the original registration document, and DVLA paperwork confirming that I have authorisation to put the new plates on the car and the fact that a new V5 is being issued. That should hopefully suffice in the event I am stopped.

HoHoHo

15,398 posts

279 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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We got stopped last year in Austria (I know it's not France, but it's still a story!)

Copy of V5, not the original and I got fined €120

Not sure what they'd do in France?

VPower

3,598 posts

223 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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One of our Le Mans group has a house in France.

He always says (from experience) take ALL your original documents.

Don't forget the paper bit of your photo licence and they do know that for your British insurance to be valid you need an valid MOT! So take that too!

Having said all that, in all my years driving in France I've never been stopped.

Ramona

192 posts

185 months

Sunday 5th June 2011
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Clutch slave cylinder went on my M5 a few years ago. The BMW dealers near Le Mans (Legrand Sud Auto) were extremely helpful (even found us a local hotel and gave us a lift there) BUT they almost refused to do any work on the car because I didn't have my V5 with me. Lesson learned.

t1grm

4,657 posts

313 months

Sunday 5th June 2011
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B.J.W said:
Well, I have a bill of sale, insurance, and the number plate transfer authorisation. The 1st will have to suffice as proof of ownership. In the meantime, fingers crossed that the V5 arrives by Wednesday. Thanks Chaps
Err V379 (see above)? banghead

So you post asking advice on what to do and then decide to completely ignore it when someone responds. Nice. rolleyes

RallyChamp

118 posts

220 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Hi Ben, Seems like you may have it covered as best as you can. I've been fined and banned for speeding in the past (MF's) and had neither my V5 or MOT docs at the time. They held on my licence until I could send them a copy of this after which they returned my licence.

Guess it depends who stops ya, it's up to them. I wouldn't worry about it personally.

M

Boshly

2,776 posts

265 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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t1grm said:
B.J.W said:
Well, I have a bill of sale, insurance, and the number plate transfer authorisation. The 1st will have to suffice as proof of ownership. In the meantime, fingers crossed that the V5 arrives by Wednesday. Thanks Chaps
Err V379 (see above)? banghead

So you post asking advice on what to do and then decide to completely ignore it when someone responds. Nice. rolleyes
Wow, get off that high horse!

Firstly if you read the responses he's been offered conflicting advice (as per PH normality) so if you're going to get arsey about him taking advice, maybe he did? Just not yours!

Secondly and most likely, he doesn't seem to have a lot of choice, as he hasn't got a V5. So what do you expect him to do with your advice? Stay at home and not take what would appear to be a slight risk? I know he was referred to DVLA for temp doc, but maybe he can't get there.

People are a bit too quick to post the old rolleyes these days.

blueg33

46,310 posts

253 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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t1grm said:
Go to your local DVLA office and apply for a V379 temporary registration certificate. They will issue one on the spot and it is valid until the original arrives.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSell...

"The registration certificate may take up to four weeks to arrive. If you need to travel during this time you’ll need to apply for a temporary registration certificate (V379), available from a DVLA local office. You'll need to provide proof of ID and there’s a fee for the service."
Typical of the DVLA,
DVLA said:
"we are too disorganised to take less than many weeks to change up to 7 numbers and letters on a piece of paper so you will have to pay us before you can go on holiday HA HA"