Caught 160mph coming from Le Mans
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No surprise yet more whingeing from the French authorities about cars being driven at the type of speeds which match the quality and traffic levels of the roads in question.Just like the cars they're driving,the Brits aren't treating French autoroutes like race tracks,they're just using them at the types of speeds those cars and roads were designed for in just the same way that German drivers,and British ones and many others,use German motorways at similar types of speeds.It seems that the article is showing the French authorities true colours in that they've got issues with specifically British registered cars and drivers.I can't believe that there's no German or Swiss etc etc drivers running at high speeds across France to and from the Le Mans event.I've certainly been overtaken enough times on French autoroutes by such registered cars at speeds which the Daily Mail would be most interested in reporting.
My suggestion to the French authorities would be reduce the autoroutes to one lane in each direction,take out the central reservation,then line them with trees at the sides and road junctions etc etc,then call them RN's and take the tolls off and then put a 90 kmh limit on them.As for me I couldn't care less because I won't be using their roads or going to Le Mans just as I didn't this year knowing the obviously anti British,anti car,agenda which is obviously taking place in high places in the French authorities which seem to have turned France into a place that any driver,with any sense,needs to stay away from,in just the same way that I'd prefer to take a fast car to Germany than Wales.
My suggestion to the French authorities would be reduce the autoroutes to one lane in each direction,take out the central reservation,then line them with trees at the sides and road junctions etc etc,then call them RN's and take the tolls off and then put a 90 kmh limit on them.As for me I couldn't care less because I won't be using their roads or going to Le Mans just as I didn't this year knowing the obviously anti British,anti car,agenda which is obviously taking place in high places in the French authorities which seem to have turned France into a place that any driver,with any sense,needs to stay away from,in just the same way that I'd prefer to take a fast car to Germany than Wales.
I was pulled over on the Monday afternoon and when I asked what the record was they immediately knew, apparently the driver was caught at 220kph (about 135mph) in a 4 door saloon with 2 children in the back seats in the pouring rain.
I asked if the car was confiscated and they said no, but we took his license and he's banned for 6 months and a 750Euro fine.
It seems they had yet to meet the R8 guy, I bet he shocked them a bit!!
I asked if the car was confiscated and they said no, but we took his license and he's banned for 6 months and a 750Euro fine.
It seems they had yet to meet the R8 guy, I bet he shocked them a bit!!
Edited by Beanoir on Wednesday 26th June 13:27
Remarkably stupid of the driver to do that speed as we were all well aware the police would be out if force. Also as someone says they never seem to stop the French registered cars. My cruise control was set at 80mph on the way back the vast majority of cars passing me were French registered, a few Danes and 1 or 2 british cars but none doing outrageous speeds.
The Brits have certainly slowed down over the years.
The Brits have certainly slowed down over the years.
The Leaper said:
If it's a company car it will not be confiscated as he's not the owner. He should get it back after a (presumed) court appearance.
The guy is an idiot twice over: speeding in France at the time of Le Mans and doing it on the A28 near Calais, a known area for speed traps.
R.
Where does everyone get the idea that it's only the A28 that's infested with speed traps but the rest of the French autoroute system isn't.The fact is it's an obvious policy of having built roads suited to the types of speeds in question they're now out to enforce an agenda of totally unrealistic speeds on them and there's no way that they're just concentrating that agenda on the A28 near Calais.It's a French government issue that's being applied nationally although with obvious 'issues' involving the Brits in particular.Nothing new there considering French/UK relations throughout history. The guy is an idiot twice over: speeding in France at the time of Le Mans and doing it on the A28 near Calais, a known area for speed traps.
R.
I did not say it's only the A28. I did say that the A28 is one of the better know areas for speed traps, that's all. Of course, we all know that the French have upped their game regarding speeding as a result of the alarming increase in death rate due to speeding apparently, and quite right too.
Munter said:
R8 company car. Very nice.
Le Plod: "We will take your car!"
UK Driver: Ok here are the keys. You guys have fun with that.
UK Driver to PA: Get the company to buy me another car and pick me up from the Eurostar terminal. Ta.
I would guess he's a contractor or an entrepreneur. So the company is probably his own company (or he is a significant partner). Thus any replacement car is a corresponding chunk out of his profit/dividend. I can't think of many mid to large size companies that hand out R8's as company cars to employees - no matter how senior. Should protect him from having it confiscated though.Le Plod: "We will take your car!"
UK Driver: Ok here are the keys. You guys have fun with that.
UK Driver to PA: Get the company to buy me another car and pick me up from the Eurostar terminal. Ta.
Edited by t1grm on Wednesday 26th June 13:59
Not being but funny it pisses me off the way the French lord it around and complain about us, granted there are allot more nice cars owned in the uk and unfortunately for them they host events such as LeMans however I live in Kent and regularly use the M20 down from Maidstone to Folkstone and it always happens that look in my mirror at a french car closing me down in excess of the Speed of sound with its indicators flashing away.
It surprises me sometimes that these diesel s
t boxes can do these speeds however I rarely see our good old lazy traffic officers pulling them over and taking their cars away etc etc. If they did the French would complain its an outrage.
Im not agreeing that doing 160mph plus is for one minute acceptable but why is it always us who have to put up with everyone elses st!
I think for me its the niggle of fining people on the spot for breaking the speed limit for a few KPH more when its one sided along with the tatics of hiding in the bushes!
It surprises me sometimes that these diesel s
t boxes can do these speeds however I rarely see our good old lazy traffic officers pulling them over and taking their cars away etc etc. If they did the French would complain its an outrage.Im not agreeing that doing 160mph plus is for one minute acceptable but why is it always us who have to put up with everyone elses s
t!I think for me its the niggle of fining people on the spot for breaking the speed limit for a few KPH more when its one sided along with the tatics of hiding in the bushes!
I'm sorry but most of that ^^ is utter bks.
We're lucky that the French roads are good. We're lucky to be let in easily and made welcome by the French. When we go abroad, we should follow the rules of the country we go to, and not act like a bunch of selfish gits sticking 1 finger up to our hosts. We're English, we should know to behave better than that.
If there was a similar story about e.g Poles coming over here and tanking along the M25 at 160MPH, you lot would not be supporting them, so why is it any difference when the boot is on the other foot?
There's a time and a place for a proper hoon, and the Autoroute to le Mans is not it.
ks.We're lucky that the French roads are good. We're lucky to be let in easily and made welcome by the French. When we go abroad, we should follow the rules of the country we go to, and not act like a bunch of selfish gits sticking 1 finger up to our hosts. We're English, we should know to behave better than that.
If there was a similar story about e.g Poles coming over here and tanking along the M25 at 160MPH, you lot would not be supporting them, so why is it any difference when the boot is on the other foot?
There's a time and a place for a proper hoon, and the Autoroute to le Mans is not it.
The Leaper said:
I did not say it's only the A28. I did say that the A28 is one of the better know areas for speed traps, that's all. Of course, we all know that the French have upped their game regarding speeding as a result of the alarming increase in death rate due to speeding apparently, and quite right too.
The 'alarming' increase in the death rate on French roads was actually nothing new.They've always had a relatively high casualty rate although mostly based on unrepresentative figures which don't take into account the longer distances of the journeys undertaken on French roads as opposed to uk ones for example.So they make a big thing about the death rate per person and/or per journey while conveniently forgetting that those journeys are a lot longer than the average journey undertaken here.So death rate per journey/kilometre travelled wouldn't look quite so bad.However the casualties that have been sustained have mostly been a case of drunk drivers and/or relatively high speeds on RN an D roads on which the risks have always been a lot higher than autoroutes.Often in the earlier years caused by gutless overgeared Citroen DS type cars trying to overtake trucks and even slower Citroen Dyanes and 2 CV's with another DS fully wound up to it's eventual vmax approaching in the opposite direction.With the resulting choice for their unfortunate drivers between either the trees at the side of the road or a head on crash.The modern idea of diesels to take advantage of cheap diesel prices being the modern day equivalent.The French answer to that now being the typical sledgehammer approach of limiting all RN and D roads to 90 kmh thereby making them unviable for long distance use.
However in over 30 years of regular use of continental motorways I've never once seen any accidents involving the types of autoroute speeds being decribed either in France,Italy,Germany,Switzerland or Belgium although trust me during the 1980's and 90's it was more likely to see more cars that were running on all those roads at around if not well over 100 mph,than less.While the 'actual' figures show that there's been an 'increase' in the casualty rate on French autoroutes since the present speed crusade started not a decrease.
There's a certain event held once a year that it's known that motor enthusiasts travel to from a certain port, often driving some exotic metal.
It's a fairly obvious idea to have a healthy police presence, and to be fair it's working - We've got the message.
Obviously they have a different tactic, using hidden speed traps, but their country their rules
It's a fairly obvious idea to have a healthy police presence, and to be fair it's working - We've got the message.
Obviously they have a different tactic, using hidden speed traps, but their country their rules
Some Gump said:
I'm sorry but most of that ^^ is utter bks.
We're lucky that the French roads are good. We're lucky to be let in easily and made welcome by the French. When we go abroad, we should follow the rules of the country we go to, and not act like a bunch of selfish gits sticking 1 finger up to our hosts. We're English, we should know to behave better than that.
If there was a similar story about e.g Poles coming over here and tanking along the M25 at 160MPH, you lot would not be supporting them, so why is it any difference when the boot is on the other foot?
There's a time and a place for a proper hoon, and the Autoroute to le Mans is not it.
If the autoroutes,just like the autobahns,aren't the 'proper place for 200 kmh + type speeds' regardless of the nationality of the drivers in question and at least without any massive hysterical reaction form the authorities,then what is.ks.We're lucky that the French roads are good. We're lucky to be let in easily and made welcome by the French. When we go abroad, we should follow the rules of the country we go to, and not act like a bunch of selfish gits sticking 1 finger up to our hosts. We're English, we should know to behave better than that.
If there was a similar story about e.g Poles coming over here and tanking along the M25 at 160MPH, you lot would not be supporting them, so why is it any difference when the boot is on the other foot?
There's a time and a place for a proper hoon, and the Autoroute to le Mans is not it.
surveyor said:
There's a certain event held once a year that it's known that motor enthusiasts travel to from a certain port, often driving some exotic metal.
It's a fairly obvious idea to have a healthy police presence, and to be fair it's working - We've got the message.
Obviously they have a different tactic, using hidden speed traps, but their country their rules
Those of us who can remember better times are well aware of 'their rules'.Hidden speed traps there are no different to the unmarked cars and laser traps used here.What is different is the French authorities' typically British attitudes now to the speed issue compared to those 'better days' when we wouldn't even be having this discussion,because ( often very ) high speeds and French autoroutes, without any hysterical reactions from all concerned,were an accepted given.It's a fairly obvious idea to have a healthy police presence, and to be fair it's working - We've got the message.
Obviously they have a different tactic, using hidden speed traps, but their country their rules
While in the case of Le Mans those 'rules',as opposed to those 'better days',now obviously mean that it's more likely to see casualties at Le Mans caused by drivers trying to go too fast on the entry into corners than to safely complete the 24 hrs running at around 240 mph + along the full length of the Mulsanne every lap.
Edited by XJ Flyer on Wednesday 26th June 15:00
XJ Flyer said:
surveyor said:
There's a certain event held once a year that it's known that motor enthusiasts travel to from a certain port, often driving some exotic metal.
It's a fairly obvious idea to have a healthy police presence, and to be fair it's working - We've got the message.
Obviously they have a different tactic, using hidden speed traps, but their country their rules
Those of us who can remember better times are well aware of 'their rules'.Hidden speed traps there are no different to the unmarked cars and laser traps used here.What is different is the French authorities' typically British attitudes now to the speed issue compared to those 'better days' when we wouldn't even be having this discussion because ( often very ) high speeds and French autoroutes without any hysterical reactions from all concerned were an accepted given.It's a fairly obvious idea to have a healthy police presence, and to be fair it's working - We've got the message.
Obviously they have a different tactic, using hidden speed traps, but their country their rules
While in the case of Le Mans those 'rules',as opposed to those 'better days',now obviously mean that it's more likely to see casualties at Le Mans caused by drivers trying to go too fast on the entry into corners than to safely complete the 24 hrs running at around 240 mph + along the full length of the Mulsanne every lap.
I was late for my train, and UK side was pushing the boundaries of a diesel Mondeo. Ended up 90 minutes behind my mates off the train. Kept to 130KPH France side, (which they certainly did not do), and ended up 90 seconds behind them at the camp, as I used a few back roads to by pass the queues heading into the circuit.
Edited by surveyor on Wednesday 26th June 15:07
Some Gump said:
I'm sorry but most of that ^^ is utter bks.
We're lucky that the French roads are good. We're lucky to be let in easily and made welcome by the French. When we go abroad, we should follow the rules of the country we go to, and not act like a bunch of selfish gits sticking 1 finger up to our hosts. We're English, we should know to behave better than that.
If there was a similar story about e.g Poles coming over here and tanking along the M25 at 160MPH, you lot would not be supporting them, so why is it any difference when the boot is on the other foot?
There's a time and a place for a proper hoon, and the Autoroute to le Mans is not it.
I clearly said that i didn't agree with excessive speeds and perhaps I have a bitter taste in my mouth as i once got marched to cash machine to pay a 750 euro fine for over taking a tractor. Just so happened I was speeding when doing such a thing!ks.We're lucky that the French roads are good. We're lucky to be let in easily and made welcome by the French. When we go abroad, we should follow the rules of the country we go to, and not act like a bunch of selfish gits sticking 1 finger up to our hosts. We're English, we should know to behave better than that.
If there was a similar story about e.g Poles coming over here and tanking along the M25 at 160MPH, you lot would not be supporting them, so why is it any difference when the boot is on the other foot?
There's a time and a place for a proper hoon, and the Autoroute to le Mans is not it.
Perhaps you don't do this and you never speed! I think you mis the point and the difference between speeding like for exmaple the majority of uk drivers doing 80 in 70 and driving like a
like the guy in the R8.If you were caught doing 90 in and 80 in France during times such as LeMans you stand a good chance of having your pants pulled down.
All I was trying to point out is that the rules are not the same both sides of the water and if you go and spend time travelling roads near dover port you will see that in fact a majority of the speeders will be french, german, polish or whatever Why? Because it is less likely they will get pulled over by our police because 9x out 10 their hands are tied and very little they can do. I can't remember being stopped and asked to hand over money on the spot!
Is this really a valid point? 'If there was a similar story about e.g Poles coming over here and tanking along the M25 at 160MPH, you lot would not be supporting them, so why is it any difference when the boot is on the other foot?'
I like how you point the finger at the poles didn't realise is race related. Clearly you like France allot?
It's clear to see that the French employ tatics that are unfair and there are a larger number of police out and about during certain events which means one thing, they are trying to catch you out!
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