Will Weber fly the Porsche at Le Mans?
Will Weber fly the Porsche at Le Mans?
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Mark B

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1,671 posts

294 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Can he fly a Porsche as well as the Mercedes?


24lemons

3,000 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th June 2013
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Lets hope not eh? I've witnessed 2 lmp's in mid air, Treluyer in 2009 and McNish in 2011 and it ain't fun to watch. Can he kick Audi's arse? It'll be fun to find out!

Nick M

3,632 posts

252 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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There was a whole spate of them a few years back, but Merc were by far the worst offenders. They were, IMO, extremely lucky not to have had a major injury (or worse) given that the cars flipped three times (and possibly a half-flip at the testing day that year - there was speculation that the 'suspension failure' of one the cars during the test day was due to a half flip and a heavy landing).

Porsche did it one year at Petit Le Mans - one of the 911 GT1 cars, but can't remember who was driving.

Thankfully it's a much rarer occurrence these days.

Super Dan

32 posts

208 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Porsche are clearly assembling a bigtime team with no half measures, I want to see them lick Audi next year but would also like to see Toyota smash the Union too!

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Nick M said:
Porsche did it one year at Petit Le Mans - one of the 911 GT1 cars, but can't remember who was driving.
Yannick Dalmas

Godalmighty83

417 posts

283 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Super Dan said:
Porsche are clearly assembling a bigtime team with no half measures, I want to see them lick Audi next year but would also like to see Toyota smash the Union too!
All three going full bore would be fantastic, we don't know how strong Audi are as they have yet to be fully challenged. Bring on 2014!

RobGT81

5,229 posts

215 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Godalmighty83 said:
All three going full bore would be fantastic, we don't know how strong Audi are as they have yet to be fully challenged. Bring on 2014!
Audi have yet to be challenged? Do you not watch Le Mans, WEC or ILMC?
Audi have made it quite clear this year alone that they are very very strong

Godalmighty83

417 posts

283 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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RobGT81 said:
Audi have yet to be challenged? Do you not watch Le Mans, WEC or ILMC?
Audi have made it quite clear this year alone that they are very very strong
Yes I watched lemans where they were 3/4 seconds a lap faster, which is what I meant by yet to be challenged.

Super Dan

32 posts

208 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Pretty sure Toyota are providing a credible challenge, on a much smaller budget.

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

181 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Godalmighty83 said:
RobGT81 said:
Audi have yet to be challenged? Do you not watch Le Mans, WEC or ILMC?
Audi have made it quite clear this year alone that they are very very strong
Yes I watched lemans where they were 3/4 seconds a lap faster, which is what I meant by yet to be challenged.
But surely that is because they are so damn good - Toyota certainly aren't poor.

There seems to be an assumption that Audi are adequate at best - and everyone is under-achieving, rather than Audi are exceptionally strong.

Toyota may not have had the outright pace, but ran a very, very canny race at Le Mans.

RobGT81

5,229 posts

215 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Godalmighty83 said:
Yes I watched lemans where they were 3/4 seconds a lap faster, which is what I meant by yet to be challenged.
3/4 seconds isn't a lot if your stopping for fuel more often. Toyota gave them a good race, as Peugeot usually did. Infact, except at Le Mans, Peugeot used to give Audi a good lesson in every race. Didn't Peugeot win something silly, like 11 6 hour races in a row? I think that can be classed as challenging Audi.
Toyota whooped Audi at the end of last year.
What you are seeing is a great team raising their game.

E36GUY

5,907 posts

247 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Super Dan said:
Pretty sure Toyota are providing a credible challenge, on a much smaller budget.
Yup. To finish on the same lap after 24 hours of racing I judge to be a very credible challenge indeed. I also think that had it rained more on Sunday morning Toyota could have taken it as they were markedly faster in the wet. Bourdais unlapping himself around the outside of Kristensen on Porsche Curves in the wet was fantastic!

zebedee

4,595 posts

307 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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E36GUY said:
Yup. To finish on the same lap after 24 hours of racing I judge to be a very credible challenge indeed. I also think that had it rained more on Sunday morning Toyota could have taken it as they were markedly faster in the wet. Bourdais unlapping himself around the outside of Kristensen on Porsche Curves in the wet was fantastic!
Bourdais? In a Toyota?

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

181 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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That were Mark Gene - I think they were trying to get themseles back onto the lead lap on the off chance that something happened in the rain that was forecast.

The Audi could have fought harder - but why bother when a lap up?! It was a bit of a hail-mary move but worth doing. They conceded with ten minutes to go after the rain never really materialised and let the Audi back through for the formation finish.

All in all the right balance of never say die attitude, but knowing when they are beat and doing it with grace.

zebedee

4,595 posts

307 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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I hope we never see Bourdais race at Le Mans again after what he did to Rollcentre, can't forgive that.