Fixed Speed Cameras now fining UK drivers.
Discussion
old'uns said:
bulldong said:
Bear in mind also that the speed limit on the equivalent of a/b roads in France is now 80kmh and not 90kmh. Your friend may have been doing 90kmh thinking it was all fine.
from July 1st?
A few years ago a friend of mine got a speeding ticket from a policeman in the UK. She objected for various possibly valid reasons, anyway it ended up in court. When the notice was inspected in court it turns out they had taken too long to issue the notice to her in the post so the case was rejected on that basis before it even went anywhere.
Good job she did not just plead guilty by post and just pay up.
It may be worth checking in these cases. Maybe there are similar rules to apply here.
Good job she did not just plead guilty by post and just pay up.
It may be worth checking in these cases. Maybe there are similar rules to apply here.
Right then, been doing some digging.....
Found this from the AA
"The new regulation (SI 2017/554) requires the DVLA to provide details of the registered keeper/owner at the time of the alleged traffic offence if the authorities in another EU country contact DVLA within 12 months of the date of the alleged offence with:
Details of the alleged offence (date, time, location)
Vehicle registration number
Vehicle category and, if known, its make and model"
Full article here......
https://www.theaa.com/european-breakdown-cover/dri...
12 months is an awful long time to be wondering did that camera flash at me or someone else 
Found this from the AA
"The new regulation (SI 2017/554) requires the DVLA to provide details of the registered keeper/owner at the time of the alleged traffic offence if the authorities in another EU country contact DVLA within 12 months of the date of the alleged offence with:
Details of the alleged offence (date, time, location)
Vehicle registration number
Vehicle category and, if known, its make and model"
Full article here......
https://www.theaa.com/european-breakdown-cover/dri...
12 months is an awful long time to be wondering did that camera flash at me or someone else Edited by fatboy18 on Thursday 7th March 20:28
Many fixed cameras in France have been destroyed / vandalised by the Gilets Jaunes movement.
I drove from Lux to Flaine (nr. Chamonix) and back and only 1 camera en route hadn't been damaged beyond use.
The problem is though that you don't know they've been damaged until you're already passing them, so you still need to watch your speed.
(And even then, I always seem to get caught speeding in France ... Never by much, but I just pay the fines online.)
I drove from Lux to Flaine (nr. Chamonix) and back and only 1 camera en route hadn't been damaged beyond use.
The problem is though that you don't know they've been damaged until you're already passing them, so you still need to watch your speed.
(And even then, I always seem to get caught speeding in France ... Never by much, but I just pay the fines online.)
I think some writing to MPs is called for.
In the UK a notice of intended prosecution is normally issued within 14 days.
more details here
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/does-nip-have-be-...
Now I could understand that by the time data is collected from foreign speed cameras and then owners details requested from the UK DVLA it could be over 14 days before one hears of weather a fine or note of intended Prosecution is forthcoming, but 12 months seems nuts!
Surely this could be brought down to 2 or 3 months max?
I think a call for a change in the law is needed.
Thoughts?
In the UK a notice of intended prosecution is normally issued within 14 days.
more details here
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/does-nip-have-be-...
Now I could understand that by the time data is collected from foreign speed cameras and then owners details requested from the UK DVLA it could be over 14 days before one hears of weather a fine or note of intended Prosecution is forthcoming, but 12 months seems nuts!
Surely this could be brought down to 2 or 3 months max?
I think a call for a change in the law is needed.
Thoughts?
fatboy18 said:
I think some writing to MPs is called for.
In the UK a notice of intended prosecution is normally issued within 14 days.
more details here
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/does-nip-have-be-...
Now I could understand that by the time data is collected from foreign speed cameras and then owners details requested from the UK DVLA it could be over 14 days before one hears of weather a fine or note of intended Prosecution is forthcoming, but 12 months seems nuts!
Surely this could be brought down to 2 or 3 months max?
I think a call for a change in the law is needed.
Thoughts?
My question is does the UK go after other EU member state motorists who get flashed in the UK for speeding? At the moment, the UK doesn't seem to be very good at recovering costs from EU nationals (nations) who have used the NHS. In the UK a notice of intended prosecution is normally issued within 14 days.
more details here
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/does-nip-have-be-...
Now I could understand that by the time data is collected from foreign speed cameras and then owners details requested from the UK DVLA it could be over 14 days before one hears of weather a fine or note of intended Prosecution is forthcoming, but 12 months seems nuts!
Surely this could be brought down to 2 or 3 months max?
I think a call for a change in the law is needed.
Thoughts?
Information update, I was in france on the weekend meeting some of my French friends and asked them about time from a camera being flashed to notice of prosecution for them.
3 DAYS! They get informed within 3 DAYS if a fine is forthcoming!
So for us to have to wait 12 months is a bloody joke!
3 DAYS! They get informed within 3 DAYS if a fine is forthcoming!
So for us to have to wait 12 months is a bloody joke!
LeMansNut said:
My question is does the UK go after other EU member state motorists who get flashed in the UK for speeding? At the moment, the UK doesn't seem to be very good at recovering costs from EU nationals (nations) who have used the NHS.
(Apparently) Uk law states that the driver of the vehicle at the time of the offence is responsible and will be prosecuted. European law states that the registered keeper of the vehicle at the time of the offence will be prosecuted. This means that the European Police can send a fine to the registered keeper of the vehicle in the UK via DVLA but UK Police can't fine the registered keeper in mainland Europe as there is no UK law to say the registered keeper was responsible for the offence, so Europeans can drive however fast they like in the UK and never get fined, they also don't need to pay auto tolls (i.e. Dartford Crossing)!Gassing Station | Le Mans | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff